Can I easily put a 6speed BZ-R Box on my BZ-G 5speed Levin?

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Can I easily put a 6speed BZ-R Box on my BZ-G 5speed Levin?

Postby Graphite » Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:48 pm

I've decided I need a gearbox with LSD, so was wondering if I can do this without any dramas? or would I also needs the BZ-R ecu etC?
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Postby Alex B » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:02 pm

what is the bzr box btw? id assume its C6x or maybe E6x
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Postby aesc » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:04 pm

C160 I believe
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Postby sergei » Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:32 pm

I've done it in my AE101, the only thing I had to modify is the left gearbox mount (bend/drill holes)...Althou you might have slight problem shifting in reverse (too hard - not enough left right movevent of shifter)
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Postby Bazda » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:12 pm

not all the 6 speed boxes have lsd.
Apparantly the BZ-V comes with an LSD 5 speed.
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Re: Can I easily put a 6speed BZ-R Box on my BZ-G 5speed Lev

Postby Rick » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:19 pm

Graphite wrote:would I also need the BZ-R ecu?


You dont need the ecu to run the 6 speed but there is a difference between the 5 & 6 speed, the 6 speed has premature rev cut points in 1 st and 6th gear and slightly changed timing curves for a split second after lift throttle and reapplication to ease and protect the 6 speed's synchro and reduce driveline lash.
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Postby CozmoNz » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:57 pm

Bazda wrote:not all the 6 speed boxes have lsd.
Apparantly the BZ-V comes with an LSD 5 speed.


Yeh, and they are common.... ive only seen about 3 in dunedin, inc mine (well, my old one now i guess). NOT,

but there are about 4,000 Bz-G's

some Bz-g's had lsd's too though......
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Postby TRD Man » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:04 pm

Bazda wrote:Apparantly the BZ-V comes with an LSD 5 speed.

Don't presume this to be the case. All written matter might indicate that BZ-V's have LSD but we've had 3, that I can recall, in stock, none of which had LSD's.
It would be easy to suggest that they've all had gearbox changes at some stage but I think that's a bit too much of a coincidence.

As with everything, check it out before parting with your money.
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Postby Alex B » Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:27 pm

Does anyone know what these boxes go for (aprox).
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:36 pm

to confirm if an ae111 was fitted with an lsd from factory look at the trans code itll be c160-something-c if its non lsd itll end in an "a"

2nd hand BZ-R 6speeds go for $800ish plus. finding one can be the tricky part.
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Postby quinny » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:22 pm

Have done this so here are the pitfalls

Top box mount needs butchering,
You will need the linkages AND shifter pedastal with the 6speed, 5 speed items do not work, i have tried. prepare for fun getting the linkages out from under the dash! think that is all, good luck
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Postby Xavier » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:25 pm

just out of curiousity, would a 1995 trueno bzg automatic has a LSD??? :D
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:05 pm

no
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Postby sergei » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:05 pm

hmm strange, I guess AE111 5speed gear shifter is shorter then on AE101, It works on mine (well Reverse is a bit pain)... What is exactly difference between 5speed linkages and 6 speed linkages?
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Postby quinny » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:35 am

The retaining clips holding linkages into pedistal dont line up and the 5 speed didnt have enuf left to right swing to hook reverse
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Postby levin_it_large » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:40 am

you could expect to pay upwards of 2g's - they aren't very common and they can charge what ever they want really.
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Postby quinny » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:56 am

i was offered 2g for mine but i like it too much
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Postby sergei » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:18 pm

yeah, reverse is a bit pain. it was barely engaging in myAE101 trueno, had to bend the lever on gearbox side to shorten left to right movement...
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Postby rallymazda » Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:19 pm

2g?????!!!!! were are you guys shopping?

ive found them from 600 to 900, the 900 one included the driveshafts which that wreker said were different, although the otherone said they were the same so.....
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:11 pm

$600 is seriously cheap..... let me know next time you find em that cheap
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