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Postby sigma » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:15 pm

ive heard some people talking about disabling 4ws on their cars, how easy is this? someone said removing the fuse but this didnt sound very feasable :?

ive also heard that there is some sort of eliminator bar that attaches to the steering on the rear that stops it form moving?

does anyone know anything more about this?
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Postby pervert » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:16 pm

On E39A VR4's you could just drill a hole and put a pin through the rear arm to disable it, shouldn't be too much different on a GT4 surely...
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Postby sigma » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:22 pm

pervert wrote:On E39A VR4's you could just drill a hole and put a pin through the rear arm to disable it, shouldn't be too much different on a GT4 surely...



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Postby Ae92typeX » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:29 pm

Out of interest, why do you want to do this?
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Postby pervert » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:49 pm

Haha, sorry ZR.

Disabling it has advantages, in most cases the 4WS seems to make cars handle like a dog anyway, IMO, hence why they don't still do it much I guess... :?
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Postby mr pad » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:56 pm

pervert wrote:Haha, sorry ZR.

Disabling it has advantages, in most cases the 4WS seems to make cars handle like a dog anyway, IMO, hence why they don't still do it much I guess... :?


Feels like your driving a forklift... cant be good in terms of weight shifting/affecting grip yadda blah blah.
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Postby AJz » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:56 pm

pervert wrote:Haha, sorry ZR.

Disabling it has advantages, in most cases the 4WS seems to make cars handle like a dog anyway, IMO, hence why they don't still do it much I guess... :?


and adding to that, especially on celicas, they computers are prone to crap themselves and arnt cheap to replace.
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Postby Carlos » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:58 pm

I know in the 300ZX, other problems make the rws very very unstable - the fix is replacing the rear steering rack with a purpose made replacement bar, and changing the 4ws solenoid and reservour for the 2ws equivalents.

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Cheap 4ws removal kit from http://www.uniqueautosports.com.au/

I would be hesitant to leave the steering rack in at the back without any system controlling it ...
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Postby sigma » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:31 pm

Ae92typeX wrote:Out of interest, why do you want to do this?


for those reasons mentioned above, scary shit driving thru the port hills at speed, feels like u always on the outside edge of the corner and bout 2 fall off, not to mention the tendancy to go sideways cornering at speed, front wheel drives arnt meant to drift!!!

thanks for the link carlos, ill look into that, 4ws no more!
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Postby Ae92typeX » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:50 pm

good point(s).
I havent had much to do with 4ws fwd's. come to think of it, I drove a honda for a week earlier in the year with 4ws, felt pretty weird. I particularly enjoyed violently zigzaging the wheel at slower speeds- felt like the thing was going to roll...still, was a cheep trade, and a honda. :lol:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:53 pm

if you diable it, you will fail a wof

if the fault light lights up. fail
if the steering it affected in anyway. fail.

that bar set up wpuld need a cert
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Postby AJz » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:58 pm

Ae92typeX wrote:....still, was a cheep trade, and a honda. :lol:


So you killed it..........? :lol:
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Postby Ae92typeX » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:02 am

lol, I tried, but it help up well (im sad to say) and sold the following week.
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Postby sigma » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:17 am

Mr Revhead wrote:if you diable it, you will fail a wof

if the fault light lights up. fail
if the steering it affected in anyway. fail.

that bar set up wpuld need a cert



thats a good point, didnt think about that, maybe ill just buy an mr2 and forget about it
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:19 am

good plan 8)
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Postby Adamal » Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:23 am

I think thats a good plan too :D
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Postby EssDub » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:57 am

I third that motion :D
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Postby Bling » Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:30 pm

planning on changing career too? :wink:

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Postby Silent Knight » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:29 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:if you diable it, you will fail a wof

if the fault light lights up. fail
if the steering it affected in anyway. fail.

that bar set up wpuld need a cert


Does WOF guys look for it in particular though? I'm sure if the car is like debaged so it doesn't say 4WS and you remove the LED for the fault light so it doesn't shine no one would ask questions about it....

Have done this with ABS aswell. Remove the LED so the light don't shine when ABS was removed from an ABS car and they didn't know tit from tat.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:57 pm

maybe.... but the extra steering rack is a bit if a giveaway!
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