bit of trouble with my coilovers

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

bit of trouble with my coilovers

Postby trueno_20v » Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:38 pm

i have just fitted daiyama ccg coilovers to my ae101 trueno (non super strut) the fronts are sweet as but the rears are not. both rear mags rub on the spring tension adjuster nut and when the wheel nuts are tightened it clamps it and car wont even move so i had to screw it up to clear the mag to get home from where i done it and it was f8*n bumpy ride! so needs to be back in original position without rubbing of course!? Should i grind 1 of the knobs flat on the nut as that is what is rubbing on the mag/tyre? any ideas would be kool. here is a pic of where the tyre rubs.



Image

Image
ADMIN EDIT: signature too large
User avatar
trueno_20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 589
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:12 pm

Postby CozmoNz » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:15 am

205 / 40 / 17?

on ae111 they are SO close to rubbing the lower hat / cover thing, its not funny.

i wouldnt suggesting grinding your spring back... but if its the only option, is it JUST touching them?

Could always get some very small spacers (we used washers on my old leone), for the rears....

just make sure you do the nuts up to the same torque :D. or you might sqeeze it a bit closer than the rest *whoops* hahaha.
Outta here on Dec 5th, 1630, WHOO HOO
Image
Rayne For President!
User avatar
CozmoNz
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 5490
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:48 pm
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Postby evil_si » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:58 am

dont grind the platform,
coilovers must be certed anyway, a certifier wont like it if they have been ground to make a wheel fit

use a spacer at the rear , dont use washers either like cozmo :roll: , spacers are available from most wheel and tyre shops in sizes from 2mm to 8mm
User avatar
evil_si
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2353
Joined: Sat Nov 01, 2003 6:19 pm
Location: TAURANGA, Pyes Pa

Postby 85AW20v » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:03 am

Also get your wheel alignment checked. As you lower the height, you'll get more negative camber. If you've got too much in the rear when you've got it at the height you want it may rub but at standard settings it may not. There might only be 1/2 a degree in it.
See ya

Simon
85 MR2 20v
User avatar
85AW20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1059
Joined: Fri May 24, 2002 6:18 pm
Location: Taupo, NZ

Postby trueno_20v » Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:14 pm

Cheers guys, i am getting some wheel spacers ($40 repco) and getting new longer wheel studs put in the back hubs, anything i need to know how to get rear hubs off? also i may need to roll guards aswell, help would be gr8
ADMIN EDIT: signature too large
User avatar
trueno_20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 589
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:12 pm

Postby phatman3801 » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:11 pm

just woundering what brand of coilovers those are and where u get them?
current project/ride: BZG levin
User avatar
phatman3801
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:10 pm
Location: gizzy

Postby trueno_20v » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:07 pm

look in my signature (www.fortyone.co.nz) thats where i got them from, brand is, Daiyama CCG.
ADMIN EDIT: signature too large
User avatar
trueno_20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 589
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:12 pm

Postby bad20v » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:53 am

Adjust your rear camber out and/or get spacers for them.
Your Opinion Means 1/16th Of Stuff All To Me So Dont Bother Arguing With Me About It As I Just Dont Care.

Thank-You.
User avatar
bad20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1911
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:25 pm
Location: With Master Yoda Smoking Doobies I am.

Postby drftnmaz » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:42 am

when getting spacer make sure there not multifit or you wont get your cert. they have to only fit the car as if they were designed just for it.
drftnmaz
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 4:44 pm

Postby Fraud » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:01 pm

drftnmaz wrote:when getting spacer make sure there not multifit or you wont get your cert. they have to only fit the car as if they were designed just for it.

Even if they are not multi-fit they will not pass a cert unless the wheel is centered on the hub. The wheels are not only allowed to be on the studs, even if the studs are longer. (must be 'hub-centric' or some cr@p)
Fraud
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 416
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:13 pm
Location: West Auckland

Postby TRDWGN » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:44 pm

bad20v wrote:Adjust your rear camber out and/or get spacers for them.


Yep, probably the best approach...of the two rear arms one set is adjustable (for toe adj), go to a wrecker and get another set of adj factory arms and replace the non adj arms, so now with all rear arms adjustable you can adjust out (widen) the rear track which aint a bad thing to do anyway completely legally and not needing any cert
User avatar
TRDWGN
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 900
Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2002 3:25 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby gdsup » Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:40 pm

if you are winding the spring perch up you have effected the preload on the spring and this will make it ride like crap/extremely stiff, if you need to adjust the height it should be done through bottom of the strut, when you get the spacers ( hub locating for cert ) then make sure you put the spring perch height back to where it was and use the lower section to adjust the height
gdsup
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 658
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:56 pm
Location: gold coast, aussie

Postby drftnmaz » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:07 pm

Fraud wrote:
drftnmaz wrote:when getting spacer make sure there not multifit or you wont get your cert. they have to only fit the car as if they were designed just for it.

Even if they are not multi-fit they will not pass a cert unless the wheel is centered on the hub. The wheels are not only allowed to be on the studs, even if the studs are longer. (must be 'hub-centric' or some cr@p)



yea this thought had crossed my mind but then i thought about all my mags and none of them fit the hub in the center...

but if were talking about 3mm it should still sit on the center of the hub??????
drftnmaz
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu May 05, 2005 4:44 pm

Postby Fortyone.co.nz » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:47 pm

Don't grind the coilovers!

Trueno20v got these off us - fortyone.co.nz - and we both knew prior to purchasing these that there may be a hurdle or two as these are for AE100's not his specific make =]
Fortyone.co.nz - For Bride, EBC, KTS, JUN, Tomei, HKS, Trust, Blitz and more!
User avatar
Fortyone.co.nz
Toyspeed Sponsor
 
Posts: 1494
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:51 pm
Location: At 41.co.nz

Postby Fraud » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:42 pm

drftnmaz wrote:
Fraud wrote:
drftnmaz wrote:when getting spacer make sure there not multifit or you wont get your cert. they have to only fit the car as if they were designed just for it.

Even if they are not multi-fit they will not pass a cert unless the wheel is centered on the hub. The wheels are not only allowed to be on the studs, even if the studs are longer. (must be 'hub-centric' or some cr@p)



yea this thought had crossed my mind but then i thought about all my mags and none of them fit the hub in the center...

but if were talking about 3mm it should still sit on the center of the hub??????


Thats just normal, I can't honestly say any of mine have either. They are meant to apparently but meh.

The 3mm one MAY be alright. Have you got some already?
Two things come up when you look at spacers, the multi-fit ones are not OK because there is not enough to them, they are soft and malleable, meaning that there is a (slim if you ask me) possibility of the wheel nuts rattling off.
The second one is when you sit the solid one on the studs does the centre spigot/locator still come through? You could then use those Urethane/rubber locators. This MAY be alright, the guy that did my cert would have a look and let you know no worries.
Fraud
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 416
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:13 pm
Location: West Auckland

same problem

Postby tomo1985 » Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:19 pm

I had the same problem with my K-Sport Adjustables but my rims are 18 x 7.5 on a carib. Rims just fit under gards so spacers could not be used and sadly had to sell adjustables :cry: I was going to get custom made springs for them smaller in diameter so the rim wouldnt rub but ran into too many hurdles.
tomo1985
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 206
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:12 pm
Location: CHCH

Postby trueno_20v » Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:40 pm

Fortyone.co.nz wrote:Don't grind the coilovers!

Trueno20v got these off us - fortyone.co.nz - and we both knew prior to purchasing these that there may be a hurdle or two as these are for AE100's not his specific make =]


longer studs and 8mm spacers should be done tomorrow so will put all back tomorrow night didnt have to touch coilovers :D
ADMIN EDIT: signature too large
User avatar
trueno_20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 589
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:12 pm

Postby Fortyone.co.nz » Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:09 pm

trueno_20v wrote:
Fortyone.co.nz wrote:Don't grind the coilovers!

Trueno20v got these off us - fortyone.co.nz - and we both knew prior to purchasing these that there may be a hurdle or two as these are for AE100's not his specific make =]


longer studs and 8mm spacers should be done tomorrow so will put all back tomorrow night didnt have to touch coilovers :D


Good job! Don't forget to provide a write up of what you've done so that others who may need to do the same thing in the future have something to refer to =] The ride height looks good!
Fortyone.co.nz - For Bride, EBC, KTS, JUN, Tomei, HKS, Trust, Blitz and more!
User avatar
Fortyone.co.nz
Toyspeed Sponsor
 
Posts: 1494
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:51 pm
Location: At 41.co.nz

Postby trueno_20v » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:58 pm

Got it all back together Coliers automotive (levin) done a mint job of putting new longer studs and screwing the 8mm spacers to the disk, here are pics.. :D

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
ADMIN EDIT: signature too large
User avatar
trueno_20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 589
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:12 pm

Postby Fortyone.co.nz » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:01 pm

Looks great! The back doesn't rub on the springs or fender? How's the ride?
Fortyone.co.nz - For Bride, EBC, KTS, JUN, Tomei, HKS, Trust, Blitz and more!
User avatar
Fortyone.co.nz
Toyspeed Sponsor
 
Posts: 1494
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:51 pm
Location: At 41.co.nz

Next

Return to Tech Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 14 guests