kp60 starlet brake upgrade for cert

[oldskool_rwd]

wot do people use to up grade kp60s brakes front and back for the cert process of having a 4ag turbo

wot do people use or wot would b a good replacement?

thanks guys

[sk1dlet]

just get sum race pads for the front and it shud b all good that what im doing
what ure setup in your engine bay?

[oldskool_rwd]

o ok i dont think that will cut the mustard aye

i really want to have good-goodish stoping power for the amount of speed/hp im going to have

does any 1 know of ke70 front disks and hubs going on?

thanks

[sk1dlet]

no sum modification is required trust me pads r the cheaper and easiest option i've also got a 4agte in a kp62, but my rear brakes r going to b bigger as im doing a diff conversion as well

[sk1dlet]

no sum modification is required trust me pads r the cheaper and easiest option i've also got a 4agte in a kp62, but my rear brakes r going to b bigger as im doing a diff conversion as well
go to this club that i'm part of an post a question there their r sum quite clued up people there

[Jebus]

Stock brakes, even with race pads etc wont cut it, they MAY get a cert, but you should use something bigger, Celica and Cressida are the most common, Celica being easier however.

[AE85coupe]

celica is a good way to go 10 inch vented in ta63 etc

you will have to modify your lower arm and steering arm for the balljoint etc. to work (not to sure of exact modifications needed, someone may know)

I can't think of any big brakes that just bolt straight into kp starlets

as for the rear brakes if your going 4agte you will need a bigger diff anyway, so something like an AE86, TA45 or TE71 diffs have disc brakes attached as it is

[Loudtoy]

celica is a good way to go 10 inch vented in ta63 etc

you will have to modify your lower arm and steering arm for the balljoint etc. to work (not to sure of exact modifications needed, someone may know)

I can't think of any big brakes that just bolt straight into kp starlets

as for the rear brakes if your going 4agte you will need a bigger diff anyway, so something like an AE86, TA45 or TE71 diffs have disc brakes attached as it is

Also if you can get the whole strut and brake setup off ke series corolla's they pretty much go straight in with only the ball joint as a problem although from looking at them side by side i would say if you could just get a replacement ball joint for the lower arm to connect onto i think it would be aprety much straight bolt on - then get god pads because although the ke ones are bigger they aren't that much bigger!

[ezy10s]

Yopu can contact Grotty through this forum and ask him about his 260mm vented rotors and cressida calliper upgrade kit that he is producing- its a complete bolt on package

[Jebus]

Yeh main problem when using cressida/celica struts is the balljoint and strut spacing on the steering arm. Early corollas use the smaller balljoint with a 12mm thread diameter, where most of the later models, celica's/cressidas etc use a 14mm balljoint.

The cressida and celica struts have a wider strut locater spacing than a K series so dont directly fit on. However, I used steering arms off an RA63 celica, this used the 12mm balljoint, and had the wider strut locater spacing to suit the cressida struts. This allowed me to use my standard KE30 control arms(had to move the steering stops) with KE30 ball joints and a Cressida strut with 10" Vented brakes.

Along with this you get more scope for bigger size shocks which allows you to use off the shelf shorter shocks form other models, AE86, AE92, St191 etc....

As ezy10's said, Grotty is working on a bolt on upgrade, it would be worth getting hold of him for a bolt on upgrade.

I might do a descent write up on all this crap with all the details on how i did my upgrade, seems to be a common topic.

[wde_bdy]

Generally swapping struts is not a good option, there are basically no bolt in options that don't do nasty things to your steering geometry. You basically have 2 choices if you keep standard struts (which I recommend) -
1. Mintex pads from RaceBrakes and some slotted rotors, also consider some ducting to help cool the brakes if you give then a really hard workout.
2. Two piece rotor and hat with a bigger caliper on a custom mounting bracket, unless its a race car then probably total overkill.
Personally I would go option 1, will easily pass cert and is considered to be un-modified.

Callum

[oldskool_rwd]

thanks for all the info guys i think i will go with the race pads and sloted rotors for the front

any1 know were to get replacement sloted rotors for the kp60?

thanks

[Jebus]

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[oldskool_rwd]

ABOVE PAGE NOT FOUND?

[Jebus]

Works fine for me, otherwise read FAQ, the brakes thread.

[Loudtoy]

Generally swapping struts is not a good option, there are basically no bolt in options that don't do nasty things to your steering geometry. You basically have 2 choices if you keep standard struts (which I recommend) -
1. Mintex pads from RaceBrakes and some slotted rotors, also consider some ducting to help cool the brakes if you give then a really hard workout.
2. Two piece rotor and hat with a bigger caliper on a custom mounting bracket, unless its a race car then probably total overkill.
Personally I would go option 1, will easily pass cert and is considered to be un-modified.

Callum

Although when i had ke struts sitting next to my kp struts they were exactly the same in length, spring platform height and basicly everything so don't think it would affect the steering geometry much if at all going with that option, also would be using a factory ball joint off a ke as well so struts would look unmodified to the casual and certifying inspector! Unless of course he knew his old toyota's inside out!

[TygerTung]

Go for KE struts, it just gets messy when you use the celica/cresida/corona struts as the stub axle is on a different angle.

KE70 brakes are a bit bigger, but I'd see if you can get some AE86 struts as these brakes are bigger AND vented!