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by **Mike-** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:17 pm

i took the front wheels off my car the other day to change one of the steering arms (which i never did) and noticed the wheel studs were loose (they could move left to right within the holes in the brake rotors.
Should this be happening?

and also the brake rotors are loose ie. if the brake caliper wernt there i could slide the rotor off without undoing any bolts.

Should this be happening?

ae101 superstrut, abs, 1991 20V

by **Silent Knight** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:26 pm

None of that should be happening.

If it is doing all of that the way that you described I wouldn't even ever considering driving the car out of my driveway...

by **fangsport** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:27 pm

yes AE101's are dodgy, wouldn't touch one :wink:

studs shouldn't be loose but the rotor is floating one those.....isn't it?

by **Mike-** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:31 pm

how should i fix it?

by **TrouserFxGt** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:40 pm

Mike- wrote:how should i fix it?

By fitting the wheel and torquing the wheel nuts back up. Problem solved. Don't forget to change your 'steering arm' while you are there.

by **fangsport** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:52 pm

TrouserFxGt wrote:
Mike- wrote:how should i fix it?

By fitting the wheel and torquing the wheel nuts back up. Problem solved. Don't forget to change your 'steering arm' while you are there.

no, not really.
if the studs are loose, then the splined holes they are fitted to must be slogged out. a new hub or fit hilux studs as they have a larger diameter splined section would fix the problem.

by **Malcolm** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:58 pm

don't listen to anything said so far

brake rotors are held on by the wheel being bolted on, and to remove them you just take the caliper off and pull them - sometimes they sieze onto the center spigot, but what you've described is exactly how they should be!

the wheelstud movement relative to the disk is normal too.
the wheel studs are attached to the hub, not the disk.

seriously, everything you've described is perfectly normal.

by **bad20v** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:00 pm

All_Fours wrote: The correct information

Yeah... what he said. Mine are exactly the same. But, fix your steering arm.

by **Malcolm** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:01 pm

Silent Knight wrote:None of that should be happening.

If it is doing all of that the way that you described I wouldn't even ever considering driving the car out of my driveway...

if you're that paranoid you'd better take your wheels off and weld the brake disks to the hubs

and carry a welder + generator with you, so any time you have to get into any other perfectly normal car, you can do the same to make sure it's "safe" :roll:

by **fangsport** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:05 pm

All_Fours wrote:don't listen to anything said so far

brake rotors are held on by the wheel being bolted on, and to remove them you just take the caliper off and pull them - sometimes they sieze onto the center spigot, but what you've described is exactly how they should be!

the wheelstud movement relative to the disk is normal too.
the wheel studs are attached to the hub, not the disk.

seriously, everything you've described is perfectly normal.

yeah true that. i read it as 'studs being loose' when in essence he was always referring to the floating disc.

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:05 pm

um.. the wheel studs should not be moving at all!!!

by **Malcolm** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:10 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:um.. the wheel studs should not be moving at all!!!

with the wheel removed, there is about 2mm either way in clearance between the wheel studs and the holes in the disk. Since the disk is not actually secured to the hub (provided it hasn't rusted on, like they often do), there should most definitely be some movement there - so long as the studs aren't moving relative to the hub, it's not a problem.

by **bad20v** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:12 pm

Mike- wrote:i the wheel studs were loose (they could move left to right within the holes in the brake rotors.

Within the brake rotors... yes. Within the wheel hubs.... no.

My brake rotors move about 0.5mm with the wheel and caliper off. But when you take the rotor off, the have no movement within the hub itself.

EDIT: What All Fours said..... again.

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:16 pm

ah i see what your getting at, and i read it as studs are moving as well, not just the disc....
at least thats how hes explained it.

by **bad20v** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:17 pm

Its ok... your forgiven Warwick. :lol:

by **Mike-** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:18 pm

ok so i can stop worrying bout the brakes but with the wheel studs.

If the brake rotor is not moving the studs can shift left to right, is that moving relative to the hub?

by **bad20v** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:19 pm

If you take the caliper and disc rotor off, do the studs still move within the holes on the hub itself?

by **Punter** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:51 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:ah i see what your getting at, and i read it as studs are moving as well, not just the disc....
at least thats how hes explained it.

maybe you read this thread viewtopic.php?t=39281&highlight= in which he said

-Mike wrote:also are the wheel studs meant to move around in the hub??

by **Malcolm** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:59 pm

i don't think he knows what a hub is...

by **Silent Knight** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:00 pm

I read it as the studs are moving aswell...

But I've never seen a rotor be THAT loose where as it just falls off without the caliper attached?

I've always had to beat them out with a hammer so I thought this was the norm?

I offer my sincerist apologies then if I was mistaken...to me it sounded like ur shit is all loose and falling apart.

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