Non superstrut ae101 lowering springs to fit ae92??

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Non superstrut ae101 lowering springs to fit ae92??

Postby trueno_20v » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:34 pm

Im selling front lowering springs that i brought for my ae101 and someones asked if they will fit his ae92? cheers
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Postby bad20v » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:37 am

Only if they are from a non super strut model ae101.

AE92 Front Springs = AE101 Non-S/S Front Springs

AE101 Front S/S Springs = AE111 Front S/S Springs

Rear Springs: AE92 = AE101 = AE111

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Postby good ol stoners » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:21 pm

sorry for hijacking but will ae82 front springs fit an ae101 non s/s?
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Postby bad20v » Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:32 pm

No. :D
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Postby good ol stoners » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:03 pm

cheers anyway though I was going be lucky.
One flat mate has ae92 superlow springs spare but their for the back, and the other has super lows for the front on an ae82. O well worth a try
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Postby Distrb » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:16 pm

bad20v wrote:No. :D


can i ask how they differ?

i've had both factory items (i've owned ae101 and ae82 at the same time) side by side, and even swapped them in opposing struts, and they had no issues, still captive quite easily... seating properly

only thing i can think of being different is possibly spring rates?
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Postby aesc » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:55 pm

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Postby bad20v » Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:40 pm

Distrb wrote:
bad20v wrote:No. :D


can i ask how they differ?

i've had both factory items (i've owned ae101 and ae82 at the same time) side by side, and even swapped them in opposing struts, and they had no issues, still captive quite easily... seating properly

only thing i can think of being different is possibly spring rates?



Not to sure about the spring rates, but then again that wasn't really what I was trying to achieve with that answer.

If you had an old set of springs from a car built in 85'- 87' would you really want to fit them, if possible, to your 91'- 95' vehicle. In the interests of the person's safety, I wouldn't. You may argue that it would be ok, as they will fit in, and the metal wouldn't have deteriorated too much it that amount of time, but how many km's have those springs already done since that vehicle was first put on the road?
In the interests of safety, I would stay on the side of caution.
If you, Distrb, want to say it would be fine to put these older springs into his vehicle, you can, its your choice. I on the other hand, will sleep soundly at night knowing that none of my advice has caused anyone harm or has endangered their safety in anyway.

Cheers.

(This is not a personal attack on anyone, just stating my opinion of when it comes to handing out advice/information and other peoples health and safety.)

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Postby Ae92typeX » Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:06 pm

bad20v wrote:...

Rear Springs: AE92 = AE101 = AE111

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No idea about the newer ones, but the ae92 actually has 2 different listings of rear springs- one being slightly smaller diameter (earlier of 2)
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Postby Distrb » Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:26 pm

bad20v wrote:Not to sure about the spring rates, but then again that wasn't really what I was trying to achieve with that answer.

If you had an old set of springs from a car built in 85'- 87' would you really want to fit them, if possible, to your 91'- 95' vehicle. In the interests of the person's safety, I wouldn't. You may argue that it would be ok, as they will fit in, and the metal wouldn't have deteriorated too much it that amount of time, but how many km's have those springs already done since that vehicle was first put on the road?
In the interests of safety, I would stay on the side of caution.
If you, Distrb, want to say it would be fine to put these older springs into his vehicle, you can, its your choice. I on the other hand, will sleep soundly at night knowing that none of my advice has caused anyone harm or has endangered their safety in anyway.

Cheers.

(This is not a personal attack on anyone, just stating my opinion of when it comes to handing out advice/information and other peoples health and safety.)

:D


Why i queried your answer? The answer "No" which you gave several posts back, is a rather broad and all encompassing one. It could mean that "no it is not physically possible due to 'x' 'y' 'z' factors" or it could mean "no i wouldnt do it coz blah blah blah and blah" We cant tell what you're implying from a blunt "no"

It might help you in the future to give a short explanation to why you say "no" so as not to possibly mislead others in situations like this.
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Postby bad20v » Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:38 pm

Yeah, but 'good ol stoners' was the one asking the question and was happy with the answer I gave to him.

good ol stoners wrote:cheers anyway though I was going be lucky


If 'good ol stoners' wanted me to go into more depth with the answer, he would have said so and I would have explained it. But he didn't ask.

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Postby Distrb » Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:59 pm

bad20v wrote:Yeah, but 'good ol stoners' was the one asking the question and was happy with the answer I gave to him.

good ol stoners wrote:cheers anyway though I was going be lucky


If 'good ol stoners' wanted me to go into more depth with the answer, he would have said so and I would have explained it. But he didn't ask.

Cheers.


'good ol stoners' isnt the only one able to be mislead by reading your opinion :wink:
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Postby bad20v » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:39 am

Well if other people need advice they only need to ask the question. You don't usually get things if you don't ask. :D
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Postby TRDWGN » Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:57 pm

Given this thread is about fitting 'aftermarket' springs the age of the vehicle cannot impact the decision Bad20V, the chances are the aftermarket AE82 springs are actually newer than his factory AE101 springs.

The bottom line fact is any front springs from AE82 (GT spec, non GT are different), AE92, AE101,AE111, superstrut or std mcpherson are all interchangable... Obviously the spring rates all differ and could adversly affect the handling if incorrect rate is put into a certain car, but this thread was simply about physical fitment of which the answer can only be YES
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Postby varix » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:38 pm

Lol, golly gosh you guys, who cares, your argueing about the most pointless thing, you could be spending time posting all your mechanical knowledge elsewhere and helping dudes out. :)
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Postby TRDWGN » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:54 pm

varix wrote:Lol, golly gosh you guys, who cares, your argueing about the most pointless thing, you could be spending time posting all your mechanical knowledge elsewhere and helping dudes out. :)


Wake Up :lol:

There is plenty of knowledge in there, having played and owned all of the above i have learn't that what had previously been said is not true
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Postby trueno_20v » Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:22 pm

Will these ae101 springs fit a toyota cynos??
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Postby bad20v » Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:24 am

TRDWGN wrote:
varix wrote:Lol, golly gosh you guys, who cares, your argueing about the most pointless thing, you could be spending time posting all your mechanical knowledge elsewhere and helping dudes out. :)


Wake Up :lol:

There is plenty of knowledge in there, having played and owned all of the above i have learn't that what had previously been said is not true


:roll: Maybe in your own little mind..... but in the real world.... no. Nice try... but still no.

And the information that you gave is incorrect, they all don't just swap over. S/S and non-S/S front springs are different, only the rears are the same. :roll:
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Postby TRDWGN » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:46 am

bad20v wrote:
TRDWGN wrote:
varix wrote:Lol, golly gosh you guys, who cares, your argueing about the most pointless thing, you could be spending time posting all your mechanical knowledge elsewhere and helping dudes out. :)


Wake Up :lol:

There is plenty of knowledge in there, having played and owned all of the above i have learn't that what had previously been said is not true


:roll: Maybe in your own little mind..... but in the real world.... no. Nice try... but still no.

And the information that you gave is incorrect, they all don't just swap over. S/S and non-S/S front springs are different, only the rears are the same. :roll:


I don't want to step on your 'man'hood or anything but i owned a SS AE101 Levin which i put some secondhand Kingsprings in from a non SS AE101, and yes i saw them in the non SS car before i bought them so i can assure you they were the one and same set, funny thing is they fitted perfectly :roll:

I also had some AE101 struts with AE92 springs that i have fitted into my wifes AE92 again no problem :roll:

I also fitted some RSR springs that originally came in my AE111 into my old AE82 again fitted perfectly :roll:

So i maintain my stand point that the fronts are all interchangable from a physical fitment perspective....
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:39 am

s/s to non s/s fronts? they are different heights.....
the spring platform on s/s is higher that non s/s....

were they superlows? and did they require spring compressors to fit?
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