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Click here to see "My Black Hole" · by **Stealer Of Souls** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:29 am

Was watching the imports Vs V8 drags on tv yesterday and was slightly surprised that there was not a single WAIC...
Now I know WAIC isn't very popular, but given their reputation I would've though there would be at least a couple of drag cars using WAIC.

Is there some hidden insane probem with WAIC for the drag racing community in NZ?

by **CozmoNz** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:37 am

Docile not there then?

http://www.performancecar.co.nz/downloa ... docile.jpg

by **Ako** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:36 pm

Ours uses one

150 deg at compressor outlet, 30 degrees at intercooler outlet, thats with tap water. Ice water gets it better still.

by **Adamal** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:43 pm

Ako: Could your turbo BE any smaller???

by **Ako** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:31 pm

IT CAN NEVER BE TOO BIIIGGGGG :lol:

26 kilos of Garrett GT47 Ball Bearing goodness

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:28 pm

thats some impressive cooling there.... tried it with redline water wetter?

by **Ako** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:45 pm

It got tried, but figured it was easier (and much cheaper) to just jam heaps of ice into the water tank before each run :lol:

After doing the run, and coming back up the return road (which down here means do a lap of ruapuna

) there's a little bit of ice floating about in the tank. No radiator on this one since it only needs to work well for about 2 minutes.

Its an awesome unit - however its MASSIVE and a lot of cars might not be able to fit it, and its not cheap either (though still cheaper than an HKS air:air or something).

Pressure drop isn't enough to do the car any harm - the gains are far outweighing any downsides.

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:36 pm

fair enough, drags are a bit different from my road set up i guess!
one day ill have ice box as well

Click here to see "My Black Hole" · by **Stealer Of Souls** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:04 pm

CozmoNz wrote:Docile not there then?

Oh. I thought docile looked like it had a AAIC.

Ako. Which car is that? I watched most of the show, but didn't really recognise most of the cars...
You should look at www.are.com.au and have a chat to them. They might be able to shrink that unit down a bit...

by **Malcolm** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:10 pm

in many classes in the US w/a is outlawed due to the big advantages it has over a/a in drag racing. Obviously that's not the case here, so perhaps most of the NZ racers just don't like power?

by **Ako** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:12 pm

How could DOC1LE have an air to air cooler when the whole front end of the car is blanked off :lol:

Looks very Water - Air to me!

That car is my bosses weekend toy / our best advertising, ran 9.5 @ 141 so far, hoping for bigger and better things in the next 2 or 3 weeks.

Despite being used to great effect on drag cars, people still have the mistaken impression they are crap on road cars. They need a decent radiator to work to full potential, and being on TOP of an engine block won't help their cause. The cooler on the RX7 is a PWR cooler, same as the majority you see around the place.

by **Malcolm** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:17 pm

Ako wrote:Despite being used to great effect on drag cars, people still have the mistaken impression they are crap on road cars. They need a decent radiator to work to full potential, and being on TOP of an engine block won't help their cause.

I have a feeling that having an intercooler on top of the engine block could cause more problems than just inefficient cooling - like bad compression, big oil leaks etc

by **Ako** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:20 pm

Hrmm... Might have a point there.

So THATS where I've been going wrong all this time - keep mistaking head gaskets and intercoolers!

Caldina GT-T · by **snwtoy** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:08 pm

Ako wrote:How could DOC1LE have an air to air cooler when the whole front end of the car is blanked off

Looks very Water - Air to me!

I'm sure I read they're using something else in there.. dry ice maybe?? Could be wrong.

by **mister two** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:09 pm

Ako wrote:Hrmm... Might have a point there.

So THATS where I've been going wrong all this time - keep mistaking head gaskets and intercoolers!

Ha ha... TOLD!

Website · by Si » Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:08 pm

[quote="Stealer Of Souls"]Was watching the imports Vs V8 drags on tv yesterday and was slightly surprised ..............quote]

I was surprised at the lame ass coverage, hell, you could only see one car launch off the line.

then the whole pro tree issue.

then that $&#$% in the head commentator.

i turned it off after the 2nd round

by **Mr GTZ** » Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:28 pm

I didnt realise on the day but yeah that damn pro tree setup was fcuked. It was more than obvious that was a big disadvantage to the Imports and one other thing if the Imports had won you know they wouldn't have shown it on t.v.

Click here to see "My Black Hole" · by **Stealer Of Souls** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:40 am

Ako wrote:How could DOC1LE have an air to air cooler when the whole front end of the car is blanked off
Looks very Water - Air to me! ... The cooler on the RX7 is a PWR cooler, same as the majority you see around the place.

Well. I'll be darned. They never show the car properly and i wasn't really watching all that closely apparently...

by **Mr Revhead** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:04 am

so how can the lights disadvantsge one side? sounds like excuses to me!!

by **Ako** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:02 am

It is an excuse, and a poor one. None of the drivers are using it either, just people arguing about it online who have never raced with both :lol:

Pro tree is no harder, you see the car before you use it, you just go "oh yup, that tree". Normally the clutch gets dropped on the last yellow, with a pro tree you just get one yellow. Easy peasy.

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