Getting the old toyotas beating nissans in drifting?

[fangsport]

fangsport:

it's not really an imbalance of the tires... good drivers will run the best tires they can get that remain in the rules. Street tires, no slicks.
And instead of pushing front&rear to limit like race car, you push the front to limit and rear to just over limit. (maybe i intrepreted you incorrectly)

grip imbalance can be created many ways ,Karl.

running super sticky DOT rated tyres up front with good condition street rubber on the back,
using brake bias adjustement to the front to accentuate LFB,
wheel alignment setting to favour less contact patch to the rears,
spring rates to change the weight transfer charecteristic, etc

the majority think that it's about having slippery rear like the committee people.

Jeez , Karl, i know that drifting can be a touchy subject for some circuit owning clubs, butt (<intended!) i'm sure they don't need to stoop that low to get track time

[suberimakuri]

it's not nice to drive a car with that much different between tires, as you end up driving the same as with good on front and shitters on the rear.

[Drifter4ag]

a drift car is a race car plain and simple .. set up for maximum grip then driven over the edge by the driver .. its very simple .. you can harp on about setting a car up to slide with imbalances of the ear and things like that but its just technical mumbo jumbo im afraid ..

if you are slow round the corner you will lose .. even in drifting and a low grip car will not go fast and drift well

[MetalupYoAss]

all this said.. a good drifter like Nick T (and garagedori drivers) can jump in a standard 86 with LSD and still link up the 1st half of puke

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

thank undertow for this being locked