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Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:48 pm

Who has NZ's fastest street legal toyota ute ? Im thinking of puting a 3 liter supra motor in one and running 9"s
How much power can the standard auto box handle ? I dont like manual gearboxes. Because its hard to txt and drive at the same time.
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Postby mikuni » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:56 pm

I hope your meaning 2JZ-GTE and not dirty old 7M-GTE??
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby Silent Knight » Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:56 pm

jeda teach wrote:Who has NZ's fastest street legal toyota ute ? Im thinking of puting a 3 liter supra motor in one and running 9"s
How much power can the standard auto box handle ? I dont like manual gearboxes.


lol...so just plan of slapp'n it in and be ready for 9s do ya? :lol:
I would like to see you try...Auto boxes are good for around 265-270rwkw safely. Go beyond that at your own risk.
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Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:03 pm

mikuni wrote:I hope your meaning 2JZ-GTE and not dirty old 7M-GTE??

Yes a 2JZ Twin turbo engine, i will fit a big single turbo to it
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:08 pm

Silent Knight wrote:
jeda teach wrote:Who has NZ's fastest street legal toyota ute ? Im thinking of puting a 3 liter supra motor in one and running 9"s
How much power can the standard auto box handle ? I dont like manual gearboxes.


lol...so just plan of slapp'n it in and be ready for 9s do ya? :lol:
I would like to see you try...Auto boxes are good for around 265-270rwkw safely. Go beyond that at your own risk.


Someone else told me that the boxes are only good for a about 300rwkw max, i dont really wanna spend too much $$ on a transmission, tryning to do things on a budget.
I dont want open the motor up either, just do the usual bolt on mods.
I would love to do a 9 or an 8 sec ET but i think the transmission will be what holds me back.
Any other ideas ? What other auto boxes could i use and where can i buy adapter plates or bellhousings to suit ?
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby fangsport » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:15 pm

jeda teach wrote:
Silent Knight wrote:
jeda teach wrote:Who has NZ's fastest street legal toyota ute ? Im thinking of puting a 3 liter supra motor in one and running 9"s
How much power can the standard auto box handle ? I dont like manual gearboxes.


lol...so just plan of slapp'n it in and be ready for 9s do ya? :lol:
I would like to see you try...Auto boxes are good for around 265-270rwkw safely. Go beyond that at your own risk.


Someone else told me that the boxes are only good for a about 300rwkw max, i dont really wanna spend too much $$ on a transmission, tryning to do things on a budget.
I dont want open the motor up either, just do the usual bolt on mods.
I would love to do a 9 or an 8 sec ET but i think the transmission will be what holds me back.
Any other ideas ? What other auto boxes could i use and where can i buy adapter plates or bellhousings to suit ?
how you get 250-300rwkw to the ground effectively would be more of a concern , would it not?
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby Punter » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:17 pm

jeda teach wrote:running 9"s

jeda teach wrote: tryning to do things on a budget.


:lol: you can only have one.
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:21 pm

fangsport wrote:
jeda teach wrote:
Silent Knight wrote:
jeda teach wrote:Who has NZ's fastest street legal toyota ute ? Im thinking of puting a 3 liter supra motor in one and running 9"s
How much power can the standard auto box handle ? I dont like manual gearboxes.


lol...so just plan of slapp'n it in and be ready for 9s do ya? :lol:
I would like to see you try...Auto boxes are good for around 265-270rwkw safely. Go beyond that at your own risk.


Someone else told me that the boxes are only good for a about 300rwkw max, i dont really wanna spend too much $$ on a transmission, tryning to do things on a budget.
I dont want open the motor up either, just do the usual bolt on mods.
I would love to do a 9 or an 8 sec ET but i think the transmission will be what holds me back.
Any other ideas ? What other auto boxes could i use and where can i buy adapter plates or bellhousings to suit ?
how you get 250-300rwkw to the ground effectively would be more of a concern , would it not?

Sorry lol i forgot to mention, i will put 15X12" rims on the back, with sum real wide drag tyres. like 15 to 18"s wide. I will do this all myself so it wont cost much.
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:23 pm

Punter wrote:
jeda teach wrote:running 9"s

jeda teach wrote: tryning to do things on a budget.


:lol: you can only have one.

Yes thats party true, but it can still be done, by spending money where its nessesary and doing alot of work yourself.
Unfortunatly i dnt know much about auto transes
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Postby Jebus » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:25 pm

This thread is by far the most ridicualus thing ive read all day

Sorry lol i forgot to mention, i will put 15X12" rims on the back, with sum real wide drag tyres. like 15 to 18"s wide. I will do this all myself so it wont cost much.


Youre going to put your 18" wide tyres on your 12" wide rims, then put them on your ute, you are very clever. I bet you can even put your pants on by yourself too.

But for actual advice, I would be talking to the likes of Nyle Buckley, as he

a) Knows hows to run 9's
b) Knows how to make 2JZ's run nines
c) Knows hilux utes
d) Built his drag car on a tiny budget compared to most other pro import racers in NZ.
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby Silent Knight » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:25 pm

jeda teach wrote:[max, i dont really wanna spend too much $$ on a transmission, tryning to do things on a budget.
I dont want open the motor up either, just do the usual bolt on mods.
I would love to do a 9 or an 8 sec ET but i think the transmission will be what holds me back.
Any other ideas ? What other auto boxes could i use and where can i buy adapter plates or bellhousings to suit ?


So you want to do achieve 9 or 8s ETs on a budget?
Without spending money on a tranny able to support the power and not wanting to open the motor up at all?

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Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:38 pm

Jebus wrote:This thread is by far the most ridicualus thing ive read all day

Sorry lol i forgot to mention, i will put 15X12" rims on the back, with sum real wide drag tyres. like 15 to 18"s wide. I will do this all myself so it wont cost much.


Youre going to put your 18" wide tyres on your 12" wide rims, then put them on your ute, you are very clever. I bet you can even put your pants on by yourself too.

But for actual advice, I would be talking to the likes of Nyle Buckley, as he

a) Knows hows to run 9's
b) Knows how to make 2JZ's run nines
c) Knows hilux utes
d) Built his drag car on a tiny budget compared to most other pro import racers in NZ.

Its not ment to be a rediculous thread, just thought share my idea with you guys.
If i was to put 18" wide tyres on it i would put 15" wide rims, but ideally i want 15 wide tyres. I think 18 is a bit too wide !

Nyle ran sum good times on a budget so i know it can be done. What gear box is he using ?
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Postby Jazza » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:39 pm

I think youd be lucky to even run 9's or 8's with just bolt on mods anyway wouldnt you?
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:40 pm

Silent Knight wrote:
jeda teach wrote:[max, i dont really wanna spend too much $$ on a transmission, tryning to do things on a budget.
I dont want open the motor up either, just do the usual bolt on mods.
I would love to do a 9 or an 8 sec ET but i think the transmission will be what holds me back.
Any other ideas ? What other auto boxes could i use and where can i buy adapter plates or bellhousings to suit ?


So you want to do achieve 9 or 8s ETs on a budget?
Without spending money on a tranny able to support the power and not wanting to open the motor up at all?

You live in a dream world you need to wake up from.


Over 1000hp is acheiveable without opening the motor up. I dnt want to spend money on a tranny, but i think i may have too.
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Postby soopachargen » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:43 pm

you guys do know this is the new import x project he's researching... he wanted the fastest street legal honda in the country last week... rear drive v6 civic au.
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Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:49 pm

Jazza wrote:I think youd be lucky to even run 9's or 8's with just bolt on mods anyway wouldnt you?

I think it would be easy to run a 9 altho id be happy with a 12 sec ET
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Re: NZ's Fastest street legal ute

Postby Silent Knight » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:51 pm

jeda teach wrote:Over 1000hp is acheiveable without opening the motor up. I dnt want to spend money on a tranny, but i think i may have too.


Doesn't mean necesarily (sp?) that you will achieve 1000hp. How many people do know that has achieved that mark safely on a stock bottom end?

Better yet who would be dumb to attempt it whether it works or not. Little thing goes wrong and p00f...pistons melting and rods bending etc.

No way in hell a stock tranny will get you over the line with 1000hp and you won't get 8s with a stock tranny either. It'll be in little bits at the starting line !

How much can you actually do yourself, and how much money do you have?

you guys do know this is the new import x project he's researching...


So is he from import X?
That'd explain it... :lol:

oH and jeda, there is a HUGE difference between 12s and 9s ETs...
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Postby Malcolm » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:52 pm

AFAIK 1000hp hasn't ever been done without opening the motor, just on a stock bottom end. You will most likely need to upgrade cams at the very least to make the head flow enough air for 1000hp, and unless the stock headgasket is steel you'll probably have to change that also.

But those expenses are nothing compared to ECU, injectors, tuning etc which is also likely to be pretty expensive. It's not a case of it can't be done, but you're really going to have to know what you're doing in order to run 9's without blowing the engine up a few times - and the 2JZ isn't a cheap engine to blow up.
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Postby jeda teach » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:02 pm

All_Fours wrote:AFAIK 1000hp hasn't ever been done without opening the motor, just on a stock bottom end. You will most likely need to upgrade cams at the very least to make the head flow enough air for 1000hp, and unless the stock headgasket is steel you'll probably have to change that also.

But those expenses are nothing compared to ECU, injectors, tuning etc which is also likely to be pretty expensive. It's not a case of it can't be done, but you're really going to have to know what you're doing in order to run 9's without blowing the engine up a few times - and the 2JZ isn't a cheap engine to blow up.

thanks for your help guys, i think its gonna cost way to much money, mite just stick to a toyota V8 motor and put that in instead. Will leave it auto tho.
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Postby soopachargen » Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:12 pm

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