one nice lookin AE86

[Adamal]

I didnt think i would sell this for a very long time either but have a kid on the way and this is not really a car to drive a baby round in.

Of course it is! Get 'em hooked young! Years down the track, people will ask what their first word was and you can proudly say "Drift!"

[DJ]

Agreed, dont sell it, its just too mint...

[bluemaumau]

this thing needs to be put in a toyota museum (sp?)

[The_Sorrow]

this thing needs to be put in a toyota museum (correctomundo dude)

Hella agreed man


Anyway all I'll say is if ya have to sell it, at least make sure its going to a good home, not some dickhead thats gonna drift it into a power pole after too much Initial D

Freakin' beautiful car man, worth every cent


btw if i was your kid, when i grew old enough to find out u sold this id write you a very angry letter

[RS13]

Hmm.

this thing needs to be put in a toyota museum (correctomundo dude)

Would I be right in saying that most of this car isn't actually Toyota, nor TRD? So why would it belong in a museum filled with bog standard KE10s and KE25s, and the odd TTE ST165? I fail to see how this particular AE86 is a part of Toyota history.

Even if it had millions of dollars put into it, a car dealer probably wouldn't take more than $2500 on a trade in, mostly because a lot of them are morons but also because to an everyday Non-Toyota lover its just another 22 year old Toyota.

Thats' exactly it. Put in in a room with 1000 randomly picked people, only 20 of them are going to know that its' a Toyota, and only 5 will refer to it as an AE86, and only a couple of those will know what its' worth.

I see the argument for classic car values, but at the end of the day, this is just one of possibly tens of thousands of AE86 around the world, not including the AE85 wannabes! Maybe if it was a GT350 or something, then it would be a "classic".. but its' a 22year old Japanese mass-produced car, with a tickled motor and a bodykit? An RX3 coupe is a classic, a Datsun 510 is a classic, a Honda S600 is a classic.. an AE86 is not. If they were such a rarity, would people be drifting them?

The Initial D argument.. so what? FC RX7s are drifted as well, but you can still pick them up for $3500, even a modded one wouldn't be much past the $10k mark.. R32/S13/S14s are in the same boat!

Edit: For everyone who hates me for what I post, I was brought up as a skeptic so it comes naturally for me to be skeptical on alot of things, its how I was brought up, its who I am, I would apologise for it but meh I can't change it.

Yeah, it is quite a nice car, props to the owner for building something tasteful (for once! haha), but I just don't see the point in worshipping it as something it isn't.

PS: As per my normal argumentitive posts, I don't mean to incite hate, just voicing my opinion.. these are discussion forums, after all!

[Dell'Orto]

The Initial D argument.. so what? FC RX7s are drifted as well, but you can still pick them up for $3500, even a modded one wouldn't be much past the $10k mark.. R32/S13/S14s are in the same boat!

Yeah, but which is the main character in the series

Im also in agreeance though, to anyone not into Toyotas, they're just an old Corolla.

[ae85_driver]

its ok ollie i think it over priced too, i gotta ae85, got all that wit a blue top, i didnt get it 4 anywhere near that dudes price

[Chickenman]

At the end of the day, you aren't gonna buy a shell and build it to the same level as that for the price (same when you're buying any car that has been modified) so it's gotta be a good deal...


Personally.. I hate it, in my opinion it isn't the beloved "hachi roku" with just enough power and skinny tyres etc, it's another overdone jappa that has lost it's balance.

I think that about most popular jap cars though... what can I say, I'm into the philosophy that Toyota had and not a body kit manufacturers drunken creation.

Just my opinion though guys

[Drifter4ag]

ahah .. did you see what the drunken monkeys came up with for a body kit though ? id say jblood were far from drunk

Rx3s done come out with chromed up bridgeport engines with flash carbs and series 5 rx7 boxes and hilux diffs and nosecones from a million other Rx series cars and lathered in pale whale leather inside .... there is a reason some modified cars fetch high prices !! THEY ARE DONE PERFECTLY with no expense spared in either time or money.
And in this particular case it is the pinnacle of refinement .. top of the top .. you will never find a better ae86 in NZ ... engine true to japanese racing heritage ... sus for racing ... freaking awesome ...

[DB4G63]

Im glad that people are beginning to realise these cars are massively overpriced. Its just a fad car of this generation, alot like Rotors really.
My mate owns a Series 1 RX which he picked up for about $2500 when people couldnt give them away....however now buying bits for it costs him a fortune.
He wont even drive it on the road anymore.

Its funny how the guy says "Say no to nissans" You could get a Silvia/Skyline and a do ALOT to it for $17,000.
Parts wont cost you arse all either...

Apparently the humble AE86 USED TO BE a cheap way to get into drifting. So if its no longer cheap? why bother?

Yeah we can blame Initial D for that one

So technically Tofu should be really overpriced, in short supply and really sought after...

[Drifter4ag]

"Apparently the humble AE86 USED TO BE a cheap way to get into drifting. So if its no longer cheap? why bother? "

where do you get this information from ?
Ae86 has never been a cheap way to get into drifting .. the cheapest normaly price they ever went for was $2500 ... from here you still need to spend probably $10k to make them competitive .. they are the hardest car to "get into drifting" and any who have used one for drifting will agree

[The_Sorrow]

If they were such a rarity, would people be drifting them?

Yes, but the same could be said of RX3's at the drag strip

Yeah we can blame Initial D for that one

So technically Tofu should be really overpriced, in short supply and really sought after...

Ummm, have any of you guys actually watched Initial D?
I only ask because there seems to be alot of "lets whip it even tho it clearly sounds like we've never seen it"

The thing with Initial D is that everyone gets this really strange idea that Tak's drifting skill comes from driving an ae86.

The result is a whole buncha impressionable kids with too much money see Initial D and think "Hey, if I got an 86, i could drift just as good as he can". If ya'll want an example go to club4ag and search for anything posted by a guy called "karate_crimson"

But hopefully we all know better than that

[Chickenman]

"Apparently the humble AE86 USED TO BE a cheap way to get into drifting. So if its no longer cheap? why bother? "

where do you get this information from ?
Ae86 has never been a cheap way to get into drifting .. the cheapest normaly price they ever went for was $2500 ... from here you still need to spend probably $10k to make them competitive .. they are the hardest car to "get into drifting" and any who have used one for drifting will agree

It's because "drifting" has changed, it used to just be a byproduct of going as fast as you could but now it's all about the old "rota" crew (hoodies and shizzle) buying nissans and going around a track slowly whilst wasting heaps of money.
Granted it is nice to watch and there are some very skilled guys on the NZ circuit but It's become a stupid overfunded exercise with money as the main ingredient and corporate sponsership the only goal.

Maybe I'm jaded but give me a standard 86 and I'll be happy as... give me that other monstrosity and I'll sell it to a honda owner

[Drifter4ag]

having had the pleasure of owning 5 ae86s a standard one is fine but not overly nice to drive like most small 80s cars ..

drifitng is good .. while nissans are dominant and kind of boring they are still out there .. at teh track .. en mass . i have big respect for anyone who actually gets their car to the track and nissans do it well wheras lots just scoff at them and others doing something legal and fun and very competitive.

You cant say where drifting came from .. people can say its from the race guys and people can say its from the burnout junkies wanting to do faster burnouts .. or that a cartoon now 10years old invented it ? thats beside the point ... MrPooleys ae86 is freaking sweet ... if i wasnt addicted to turbo 4ages i would buy his car in a second(mortgage)

peace

[~SlideWays~]

Maybe I'm jaded but give me a standard 86 and I'll be happy as...

Had one...didn't last! haha std suspension is poo's and the engine is very lacking. That was 4 or 5 years ago now and I've still got it!

My second car which is fwd will be faster (once finished) but evry time I driver my ae86 it puts a grin on my face. That's why I still have it.

Some people like them and some people don't...but why do those that dis-like them have to go nuts everytime someone tries to sell one for a good price?!

[Akane]

too expensive imo, say the car's 20G for argument's sake, you're paying 10G in the name.

It could be an "omfg mint AE86 all worked" to one guy, at the same time it could be "oh look, a garaged 20 yr old corolla that was mass produced with mods under the bonnet"

Buy Nissans imo, I used to dislike Nissans (their stuff ain't really well engineered imo, wtf's up with S15 g/box can't handle 350hp? Etc...) but it's only sensible to go down that route if you're into drifting..... up until now, 180SX's going for $8k+ and they're almost factory, wtf's up with that? Just because "omgz look at these cool vids man with all the JDM drift 180SX", dude, cares

The whole drift market is fueled by rich kiddies who wants to DORFITO and zero gripping around corners in their "OMGZ RWD JDM!" cars. I'm one of those suckers too but not sucky enough to "Sell your modded MR2 and get a 1990 rusted out factory standard S13 yo you can go mad sidewayz yo!"

There's a big difference between fully understand why one's car is appriciated, instead of "Becuz dude my cuzzie bro out in Otara has one and it does mad skids and donuts, G!" And I'm sure there are a few wise ones who ain't gonna pay $10k for a car, and have to pay another $10k due to kids out there saying "omgz mad sideways and skids 4 dis AE86 / Skyline / S13 / 180SX"

[~SlideWays~]

FFS everyone has an opinion. Strange thing is that who ever actually has one loves them. I bought mine well before Initial d turned up and I've only seen a couple even now 5-ish years later.

Ahhh I give up. Let the guy sell his car.

[Stu-]

Agreed. Its an awesome car and someone will definitly walk away with the best AE86 in the country. Such a shame he's selling it to be honest.

[gdsup]

It's because "drifting" has changed, it used to just be a byproduct of going as fast as you could but now it's all about the old "rota" crew (hoodies and shizzle) buying nissans and going around a track slowly whilst wasting heaps of money.
Granted it is nice to watch and there are some very skilled guys on the NZ circuit but It's become a stupid overfunded exercise with money as the main ingredient and corporate sponsership the only goal.

Maybe I'm jaded but give me a standard 86 and I'll be happy as... give me that other monstrosity and I'll sell it to a honda owner

Hate to say it but, you are obviously jealous or something along those lines, your comments are quite weak and uneducated.
most drifters are on the bones of there arse and have been for years to get out there and do what they love, its a combination of love for having fun/adrenalin and competitiveness (sp?) if people are trying to get sponsor help cover the costs of running there car and there dream, so they can eat and pay the rent every week, good on them, they've earned it, its alot harder puttingyourself and your most prized possetion one the line than sitting behind a pc talking on a ghey forum about which pod filter is best.
people can modify there cars how they like, if you dont like it stop looking i.e get your own entertainment
old rota crew ? where did you get that from ? and what the hell would it matter if people who like drift have liked whatever type of car before ? what makes you and your likes that much better.

bottom line is, people can do what they like with modifying there cars, market value is dictated by the market, people can sell there cars for what ever they want, or what ever the 1 buyer who wants the car wants to pay.
very well built car, if you dont like it or cant afford it, do yourself a favour and spend your time elsewhere

[RS13]

Hahaha, too right Akane. I bought my tidy 200sx (Nz 180sx) for $5000 about 3 years ago, being 5spd turbo, that was about what it was worth, whereas the same thing today, even with over 200,000km, is worth at least $7500.

With the huge influx of cheap, imported engines, more guys are choosing to buy the nanna-spec auto n/a S13s, and build them up, which is why they're becoming the AE85 of Nissans. Bargains are still to be had though, I only paid $2500 for my factory turbo A31 with moderate km's, you just have to be patient and wait until one comes up. I've managed to keep my build under $5000 so far, having converted it to 5spd, and get a few goodies under the hood.. which is money, at this stage, that I can get back.

You cant say where drifting came from .. people can say its from the race guys and people can say its from the burnout junkies wanting to do faster burnouts .. or that a cartoon now 10years old invented it ? thats beside the point

Drifting is simply controlled oversteer, it has been used in motorsport pretty much since day 1, being a suitable way to get round a corner faster. It was a natural progression that it developed into a stand-alone motorsport.

you're paying 10G in the name.

Thats' exactly it. Take a similar mid 80's rwd car, say, a n/a S12 Gazelle. If the S12 had these exact same mods, would it be worth the same kind of money? Even the "older AE86" the GT TE71, isn't worth that kind of money. Go figure?