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Postby Wildcard » Thu May 04, 2006 10:34 am

Say...what?

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0605/S00003.htm

Lots of spin... does anyone have some numbers to demonstrate that this special new formula makes more than say a 0.01% difference?
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Postby Dragger_Dan » Thu May 04, 2006 11:18 am

Sounds like they saved fuel by being efficent, not by any sort of 'fuel efficency formula.' Shell is probably pouring snake oil into people's tanks and watching the sales rise.
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Postby Leon » Thu May 04, 2006 11:38 am

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Postby gurutasker » Thu May 04, 2006 12:20 pm

I fail to actually see any hard facts, or evidence in this article on HOW the fuel is more efficient??
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Postby Brick » Thu May 04, 2006 12:23 pm

i put in $20 the oter day, got 100km of it, then went to shell (didnt no about it until the lady mentioned ot) but itll be good to see IF it is actually more efficient
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Postby Ebola_One » Thu May 04, 2006 1:31 pm

Well, here's the thing as I understand it.
If you're car is tuned for 91, and you put 92 in there, the ECU's not retarding the timing as much on hot days, so you're getting more power which does mean increased efficiency.

An efficient car is one running the proper tune.

So, in conclusion from that theory, Shell have found an african tribe who piss octane booster. For a few bags of flour a year, and plenty of water, they've found their "efficient fuel"
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Postby Adamal » Thu May 04, 2006 1:33 pm

I gotta fill up soon. Might as well give it a go and see for myself.
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Postby Leon » Thu May 04, 2006 1:40 pm

sigh.

It is all from the same tanks out of marsden point, they then add in at that stage their own brand of detergents and stuff as it goes into the tanker. Or at least that is what I have always been told.

So, in conclusion, the ads are, as usual, as always
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Postby Inane » Thu May 04, 2006 1:42 pm

me personally I dont like shell at all...

when I was living in Aus it came out that the only companies that werent putting damaging amounts of sulphur in their petrol was BP and mobil, but even then that was only in their Synergy 8000 and BP Ultimate.

shell on the other hand had so much sulphur in their premium fuel that i saw ppls cars get messed up by it.
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Postby Ebola_One » Thu May 04, 2006 1:43 pm

Leon wrote:So, in conclusion, the ads are, as usual, as always
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But... but it said so on TV!
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Postby Quint » Thu May 04, 2006 1:55 pm

Geezh some of those suggestions are common dog $&#$% sense.

'11. Avoid excess idling - Idling gets you nowhere but still burns fuel. Turn the engine off when you’re in a queue, or waiting for someone, until you need it.'
Great, so now we are going to have people turning their car off at the lights so when they go green one person gets through, Do'h, doesn't turning your car over take quite a bit of petrol as compared to just idling for 50secs
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Postby pc » Thu May 04, 2006 2:13 pm

I've started using Mobil 91 in the Familia and it seems a bit more economical... not that i've done any scientific tests tho :)
But at least i'm getting over 400Km from every fill now.
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Postby Leon » Thu May 04, 2006 2:56 pm

How about all the engines getting munted by continuous starting. Man, these people are morons.
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Thu May 04, 2006 7:53 pm

Ebola One: Octane is only one factor in how much power can be extracted from a given fuel... there are other factors that come into play.
You could in theory get more power from a certain blend of fuel that is only 91octane than you could out of 98 octane pump gas.

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/spec/TechBulletin-c12.doc <-- read the second page if you actually want to know a little bit about some of the factors
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Postby bluemaumau » Thu May 04, 2006 8:20 pm

a friend of mine works at shell. i asked him about it,

he was told shell has been testing it for 15 years and habve the world record for driving around the world (40 tanks)

i dont think itll make ne diff. just letting the masses know
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Postby Simon K » Thu May 04, 2006 8:30 pm

Im waiting for optimax.
8)

Until then, I'll go along with "Spin" :roll: ...and keep shooting the bright eyed and bushy tailed promo people down when they try and convince me otherwise. :twisted:
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Postby bluemaumau » Thu May 04, 2006 8:52 pm

Simon K wrote:Im waiting for optimax.
8)

Until then, I'll go along with "Spin" :roll: ...and keep shooting the bright eyed and bushy tailed promo people down when they try and convince me otherwise. :twisted:


whats optimax?
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Postby Brick » Thu May 04, 2006 8:58 pm

Brick wrote:i put in $20 the oter day, got 100km of it, then went to shell (didnt no about it until the lady mentioned ot) but itll be good to see IF it is actually more efficient


ive done 130k and am on E now, dont no whether it was cos i was driving slower or wat ever.

Meh they dont sell 98 so after this w/e no more shell and mobil for me :D
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Postby Simon K » Thu May 04, 2006 9:12 pm

bluemaumau wrote:
Simon K wrote:Im waiting for optimax.
8)

Until then, I'll go along with "Spin" :roll: ...and keep shooting the bright eyed and bushy tailed promo people down when they try and convince me otherwise. :twisted:


whats optimax?

An equivalent product to the other 97.5 octane fuels currently on the market. Word on the bush telegraph is that it is coming to NZ(eventually). As usual, you pay a premium for better fuel and I'd imagine it'll be the same 5 or 6 cents as BP and Mobil charge.

They also have an even higher octane "Race" fuel...whether or not it actually makes it here is up in the air as it is even more expensive.
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Postby bluemaumau » Thu May 04, 2006 9:39 pm

mean for shell obviously.?

any ideas when it will be here?
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