Looneys new turbo :)

[Loudtoy]

wah?

Your serious... You think a blacktop will beat a a 4agte...even WITH a td04..

Seriously...

And its externaled, so no boost creep issues.

I releise that they arn't the best turbos, but its a street driven car, and they are cheap as hell.

--Sykotic

Depends, race b1 at the drags if he ever gets his car back from the mechanic, or let me drive sams car at the drags and we shall c.
Maybe even just give sam some lessons on how to change gears a little quicker or something. Seriously tho it's going to take a lot of will power to change gears just after max power is produced. Anyone car to make bets as to when max power will be made with a td04 on it?? I'm going with around 6k with max torque roughly half that bout 2.9k.
Even for a street driven car if your only using the td04 as a stepping stone to bigger things thats ok but if it's going to be all you use you would imho been better off not spending the money otherwise it's going to be a series of tired turbo rebuild, tired engine rebuild over and over again!

[Dell'Orto]

Not having a go, but Looney, you're spending a fair bit of coin on the bottom end of the motor, so why not give it something worthwhile to breathe with?

[NILPSI]

Im with brad on this, get decent turbo dude!

An what are you on about get my shifts faster jimmy, its just that i need a bit more track time than i have now, u guys have a good few years on me

[PHAL]

im sure my lil vitz would benefit from a td04 because anybigger and ill blow the doors off the tiny thing!! how much did you pay for it?

[slighty_looney]

i only payd 150$ for the thing, its only done 50000k and its in awsome conditoin, yea my internals are built up but at the moment, with my money the td04 suits me fine, and im happy with my decission aswell, (which is truly what matters rite?) brent from speedworkx said it will go fine for what i want at the moment, tru the wrx has 400 more cc then i do but my cars going to be tuned to run the td04,

and if i got a big turbo id run awsome power for a silvertop (which is what i eventually want) but then id have to buy alot more things, eg . lsd / gearbox. bigger fuel pump injecters so on and so forth . and im only a apprentice (shit wages!) so i cant afford the dream at the moment so im going for the closest bet,

i posted the turbo up to get ur guys opinions (and i do appresiate you're ideas ect) but i also wantd 2 know wat u thought of the turbo in general ( and not that its tiny haha) even tho mmm boosts first post "when i grow up i wana b a real turbo" did make me laugh

turbo arrived today aswell and only cost 156$ inc postage

[slighty_looney]

or let me drive sams car at the drags and we shall c.
Maybe even just give sam some lessons on how to change gears a little quicker or something.

drag pro are we ?? lol iv been for a ride in a few blacktops and there nothing much greater then the silvertops (yes i know there faster) iv also been for a ride in sykotics car, running 7psi, and id put hudge amounts of money (if i had any) on sykotics car beating sams blacktop down the strip easy, BUT WHO CARES!!! because if sykotics happy with his car thats all that should matter, he built that car for how he wanted it, not what every1 else thinks that is best

[matt dunn]

lol iv been for a ride in a few blacktops and there nothing much greater then the silvertops

Try driving them for a week and you'll notice a huge difference.

High in the rpm's there's not much between them,
but try driving them in the lower rpm ranges and the blacktop is far superior.

[slighty_looney]

yea i dont dout that at all

[flygt4]

the 125-145odd useable kw from running the tdo4 is still a darn sight more than most blacktops. id still regard them as a good option for the 4agte if you dont want to start getting too silly .ive seen one 4agte running a tdo4 which had a power range basically similar to any factory turbo car. itll give it enough poke to have fun with anyway. go nuts with the tdo4 until you're bored with it then work your way up to something a little more interesting once you have the funds to afford it.

[slighty_looney]

yea thats wat my point was it'll b fine.... for the moment haha

[Lith]

I reakon my car would keep up with yours if you put a TD04 on it

On my 8psi on my td04 it will kill yours.

They arn't THAT bad if you don't overboost them.

Agreed - though I wouldn't call beating a basic modded 20v with another one plus a turbo is a huge accomplishment, for obvious reasons. With a TD04 running 8psi you're effectively going to be making it just comparable with some quicker NA Hondas - which you won't be in the same class as at the drags given that you're now forced induction.

If you're just looking for something fun and punchy around the place, or a stepping stone on the way to something bigger then it should be quite a hoot - but if you intend on drag racing it, consider that the kind of cars you'll be racing at the local (Masterton) drags would be the likes of MIVECT, DSCRET and BTLF3D..... hell, if you're lucky you'll match the fastest time DSCRET did *without* a turbo - to put it into perspective, you'll definately need a lot bigger turbo (and boost) to be competitive.

[crnkin]

td04's are fine. However i have no idea about your car and its setup. But if its what im thinkin, ze pistons, silvertop head, and some form of ecu, it will be sweet, and good for about 150 fwkw at 15psi ish. You will not be at all disapointed.

I run the gt legacy vf10 on my 4agte at 12psi on stock bluetop, complete with the highish compression, it frickon hauls arse, much quicker than a stock evo, which im my younger days was my dream car, so im happy

Go hard man, 4agte for ever, youll never turn back

[slighty_looney]

yea thats wat i reakn, 4agte all the way and yea its not going to b a hard out drag car, just sumthnk with a bit more power then the hondas round town i work with dscrets father, so i hear alot about hondas from him (he always tells me to buy one) and hes only running a 13.4 1/4 mile on his new engine so thats not a overly fast time, im sure 0 grips 4agte ran a faster time then that? not saying that mynes going to b anywere close to that but im sure she'll go fine for the money iv spent on it

[Loudtoy]

[quote="slighty_looney"]

drag pro are we ?? quote]

Hang on i've got a trophy over here that says winner 03/04 central region street all motor import class so maybe gifted ameture would have been a better choice of words

[slighty_looney]

not bad but im sure its not overly hard to shift fast, i manage to do it

[Dell'Orto]

not bad but im sure its not overly hard to shift fast, i manage to do it

Hit the strip and say that

[bluemaumau]

didnt you buy forged pistons? rather than gze pistons?

if so wouldnt you be running big boost?

[ex mitzy]

Hey dscret here I would like to see a 20v with your set up do that time especially on road tyres and at 110mph. I have seen a turbo 20v like yours not even match my time when my car was na. And also driven a 2004 wrx and the only down fall is the turbo. And I know that your car wont make 300kw like the turbo Hondas in Palmy are going to make.

[ex mitzy]

And as for beating most of the Hondas in town, who are you racing? School kids? There are at least 2 non-turbo Hondas that make more power than you car ever will, and a couple of turboed ones that would laugh at you - stop talking about things you have no idea about.
PS: Loudtoy has had more genuine 1/4 mile runs than you've had hot dinners

[Lith]

i work with dscrets father, so i hear alot about hondas from him (he always tells me to buy one) and hes only running a 13.4 1/4 mile on his new engine so thats not a overly fast time, im sure 0 grips 4agte ran a faster time then that? not saying that mynes going to b anywere close to that but im sure she'll go fine for the money iv spent on it

Hats off to 0 GRIP if he is doing faster than 13.4 running a TD04 and on street tyres.... "only" 13.4 is a pretty strange comment in reference to a street FWD with a standard motor.

There is no way on earth you are going to make as much power as DSCRET with a TD04 (without NOS) - let alone other ones near the end of their builds around the place. I wouldn't count the little Hondas and Toyotas I've seen racing around Palmy as a representation of whats out there, most of the guys up there would get a really nasty shock if they went to a real drag meet - and most of the people worth considering as someone to beat don't waste their time with kids who don't have a clue running around breaking the law.