cutting springs vs compressing springs

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Postby wde_bdy » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:36 pm

Progressive rate springs will help, but you will either need to compromise on the ride quality or shorten the strut body with a shorter insert to get back suspension travel.

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Postby AE85coupe » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:56 pm

just cut the bloody springs and get some good quality inserts, you can put ae92 inserts into ae85 struts, they are considerbly shorter so will keep the spring captive (you just need to put a spacer at the bttom of the ae92 shock for it to work)

only thing is with cut springs you will run the risk of the shock bottoming out, but if your not going over big bumps often, don't worry about it

cut springs are not good, but they are not horribly dangerous either.. if done correctly

likewise with compressed springs
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Postby l1ttle_d3vil » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:02 pm

AE85coupe wrote:cut springs are not good, but they are not horribly dangerous either.. if done correctly

likewise with compressed springs


that was my opinion; but i thought I better get some other advice before possibly making my car illegal, and so I don't "ruin for everyone else". seems that I was doing that by just asking for opinions though... :roll:

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Postby AE85coupe » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:14 pm

l1ttle_d3vil wrote:
AE85coupe wrote:cut springs are not good, but they are not horribly dangerous either.. if done correctly

likewise with compressed springs


that was my opinion; but i thought I better get some other advice before possibly making my car illegal, and so I don't "ruin for everyone else". seems that I was doing that by just asking for opinions though... :roll:

cheers.


yeah... i'm sure my car is illegal in some respects, but i know its safe, so i don't care
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Postby Jazza » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:22 pm

I dont think you get the point dude...

Cutting springs = dangerous therefore illegal

Custom suspension = Safe is done correctly and achieves (usually) the desired results

King springs = shit


There is no way you can legally or safely get your car how you want it (suspension wise) without plenty of change
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Postby fangsport » Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:23 pm

l1ttle_d3vil wrote:
AE85coupe wrote:cut springs are not good, but they are not horribly dangerous either.. if done correctly

likewise with compressed springs


that was my opinion; but i thought I better get some other advice before possibly making my car illegal, and so I don't "ruin for everyone else". seems that I was doing that by just asking for opinions though... :roll:

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Mate, if your car is already bouncing around, it is already illegal due to being unsafe. just because you have an easy warrant of fitness test dosn't make it ACTUALLY legal. a WOF can easily be overturned, if needed.
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Postby l1ttle_d3vil » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:12 am

well it was certified by a pretty strict certifier, and road-tested by him and he didn't have any problems with it.

i think we'll just let the post sink to the bottom now... :roll:
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Postby toyrota mota » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:43 pm

AE85coupe wrote:just cut the bloody springs and get some good quality inserts, you can put ae92 inserts into ae85 struts, they are considerbly shorter so will keep the spring captive (you just need to put a spacer at the bttom of the ae92 shock for it to work)


Quick question ive gathered from afew different sources that ae92 and ae85(/6?) inserts will fit into my front corona struts, how hard is this to do and how much shorter are they? Would I need someone with the right tools to do this, if so how much does this usually cost? Also what options are out there for old school toyota onwers for aftermarket springs?
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Postby AE85coupe » Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:35 pm

umm they are a fair bit shorter, roughly 40m shorter (stroke length) very easy to do, will need a very large spanner to undo the bottom shock nut, and possibly some spring compressors (not always if you have nice short springs) but other than that, just normal old socket set and pliers, its a fairly easy job, just need to get a wheel alignment once your done of course

oh and get a 60ml spacer to sit at the bottom of the strut (just get an engineer to machine you one out of aluminium, piss easy, cost me all of $20 for two)
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Postby Volodkovich » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:26 pm

Dont really understand the whole "cut springs are dangerous" debate. I think it would be a lot better to say not thought out suspension is dangerous.

A cut spring is not really dangerous at all, cutting them does not re temper the steel apart from right at the end where you cut it, which doesnt get any compression. You can quite safely cut springs that will last forever, and if you have thought your suspension out properly will have no problems. For instance - cutting down a much heavier springrate spring from a larger car to the right length for you application is absolutely fine in my opinion. Happens often too.

I have heard many a more story about compressed springs shattering which if you ask me is a lot more risky than chopping springs.

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Postby slighty_sykotic » Sun Jun 25, 2006 3:32 pm

yes, but the kiddies don't do that. This just use the springs they have.

Cut them in half with a angle grinder and put themb ack in without doing anything. YAY for bumpsteer.

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Postby KE25-KP30 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:25 pm

Kind of off topic, but somebody mentioned about it before...
How much are we looking at for a set of TRD springs for say a KP61?
And who do we get in touch with to sort them out?
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Postby fangsport » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:37 pm

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