items required for turboing stock standard 4AGE

[l1ttle_d3vil]

ok, basically im wanting to compile a complete list of items required to turbo a 4AGE 16v using a stock standard setup (standard ECU, injectors etc), and running on low boost.
this is for all the dumb@sses out there (ie - me) who have never had anything to do with turboed engines before and don't really know where to start.

So far I have:

• Intercooler
• Intercooler piping (pref. alloy)
• Turbo with actuator
• Exhaust/turbo manifold
• Oil Lines
• Modified sump for oil return
• Many, many hours of work

Is there any stuff off this list that i'm missing? I have searched and read through pages and pages of information, but none of it really covers the basic stuff; more of which turbo, intercooler etc etc to use and how its set up.

Couple of other questions . . .

• What is required to adjust the boost manually? Is it better off to stick with the standard actuator if you're only running low boost?

• How is the fuel ratio on 4AGTE's running stock injectors, ECU etc tuned? Is it just done by changing the timing or what??

• Is there any special lines required for the oil lines? High pressure stuff? Standard heat-resistant lines? Braided hoses or what?

• Would a 2" exhaust be suitable for a 4AGTE?

any input is appreciated.

cheers.

[Jebus]

http://garagedori.com/tech/conversions/ ... /turbo.php

Read this, do a search on google...howstuffworks etc, use a 2.5" exhaust, stop posting and go do it!

[crnkin]

Yeah I have to say the same mark. Matt you need to read, read and read some more, I could sit here for 2 hours typing what u should do, but i have done that twice already, just read read read.

Like before, the turbo to use is vf10/8, t25 (m10 or m24), or similar.

You dont need an intercooler

You cant run much boost - like 5-7 max

Timing is stock ish up to 5 deg

Stock 4agte is same as any other turbo setup, so read up, then do it, and it will work.

Its been done so many times and its been proven to work and put out good power, at least a 20kw at the wheel gain for minimal dollars, so do it, just do it.

[l1ttle_d3vil]

sweet as. just not really wanting to get into the same situation I did when doing the original 3k > 4age conversion. I was learning as I went along so ran into a heap more unexpected things which could have been avoided had I known ALL the parts I needed before starting. would also have cut the build time down considerably.
the majority of the stuff I have read so far is how to set particular parts up, what works and what doesnt etc. just looking for a more exact "shopping list" of all the parts that often get forgotten about until the time.

what I have listed seems to be all that is needed, next part will be getting the knowledge to put it all together and hopefully avoid the issues I had with my conversion, and hopefully keep the build time to a minimum.

cheers for the info.

[Jebus]

did ya read the link I gave you, page 5 has a list with prices of parts used.

[Caveman]

• Many, many hours of work

many many many many many many many hours

You'll be suprized.

heaps of little crap you wouldnt even think of

budget atleast 2 grand, probably spend around 3.

dump pipe

modified sump

probably reloate the oil filter

colder plugs

BOV

intercooler joiners.

If your paying someone full S/S intercooler pipe could cost you big dollars

[crnkin]

Took me 3 hours by myself.

put new sump on (45 mins)

Bolt off old ex, on new manifold (45 mins)

Oil lines on (10 mins max)

Plumbed in intercooler with $40 mild steel and 80 bucks of joiners (30 mins)

away

It takes fark all time, just get the bits you need

[l1ttle_d3vil]

jebus - yes, read that a couple of weeks ago but will go through it again for good measure

i'm hoping to go down the same track as crnkin; have absolutely everything all ready to go in. my car is being used as a daily driver currently so the less time off the road the better.

I can pretty much do ALL fabrication myself, manifolds, sump mods, intercooler mounting etc etc.
I'm hoping all the costs I'll be looking at is just the initial buying of everything which is what Im weighing up now so I know exactly what I'm looking at.

the howstuffworks website is pretty handy - got all the exact diagrams on there which Ive been lookin for too.

once this is all underway I'll post some progress pics.

cheers guys.

[4000GT]

I know $&#$% all, but I would think the stock injectors will be pushed, and although its a map based ECU, what bar does it read too? Add all the fittings and clamps

[Caveman]

Took me 3 hours by myself.

put new sump on (45 mins)

Bolt off old ex, on new manifold (45 mins)

Oil lines on (10 mins max)

Plumbed in intercooler with $40 mild steel and 80 bucks of joiners (30 mins)

away

It takes fark all time, just get the bits you need

Does that include wiring in new computer? new injectors, new fuel pump, what ever needs done to the engine (forgies/bearings/whatever else is worn)

Need to get a new dumppipe and front exhaust section.

Hours of trouble shooting.

Or did you pay someone to do all that?

Cos those things will take ages.

However I do admit most of my time is wasted $&#$% re fitting.

Manifold took ages to build. tacked one up and it hit all sorts of things (CAS, starter motor, AC pump)

fixed the manifold, tacked the flange on, turbo hit CAS.

fixed that, dump pipe wouldnt fit, had to make big changes

lots of $&#$% around takes ages.

[slighty_sykotic]

These people are talking about std injectors, std fuel pump, std ecu... std everything.

Mate, I know you are going to listen to these people anyway, but seriously, if its yours daily driven car, I wouldn't do it this rangi. If you need it to go places, then do it properly.

If its just a play car, then go for it!.

I know $&#$% all, but I would think the stock injectors will be pushed, and although its a map based ECU, what bar does it read too? Add all the fittings and clamps

It doesnt read + pressure... or if it does, it so so so tiny its not funny. Basically its just acting like its WOT. I guess you could use a rising rate fuel reg to make it a bit safer, but still :S. Timing will be the killer.

--Sykotic

[crnkin]

Does that include wiring in new computer? new injectors, new fuel pump, what ever needs done to the engine (forgies/bearings/whatever else is worn)

Need to get a new dumppipe and front exhaust section.

Hours of trouble shooting.

Or did you pay someone to do all that?

Cos those things will take ages.

However I do admit most of my time is wasted $&#$% re fitting.

Manifold took ages to build. tacked one up and it hit all sorts of things (CAS, starter motor, AC pump)

fixed the manifold, tacked the flange on, turbo hit CAS.

fixed that, dump pipe wouldnt fit, had to make big changes

lots of $&#$% around takes ages.

Nah, cos its all stock, Stocky stock stock stock.

Onlything i did was payed pit stop to install a 2 1/2 inch mandrel bent exhaust, couldve done it by myself in a bout half a day, but im so busy at uni.

If your manifold hit all those things, just remember, measure 25 thousand times, cut once. Only thing i needed to do was made a small dent in runner #2 for the oil filter, as it hit for a start.

cool

[Dorift 180]

Took me 3 hours by myself.

put new sump on (45 mins)

Bolt off old ex, on new manifold (45 mins)

Oil lines on (10 mins max)

Plumbed in intercooler with $40 mild steel and 80 bucks of joiners (30 mins)

away

It takes fark all time, just get the bits you need

Having that oil filter explode while going down the motorway.... Priceless.

[l1ttle_d3vil]

Having that oil filter explode while going down the motorway.... Priceless.

why would that happen? just a comment or are you taking a stab at the way crnkin has set his oil lines up?

[Dorift 180]

If your manifold hit all those things, just remember, measure 25 thousand times, cut once. Only thing i needed to do was made a small dent in runner #2 for the oil filter, as it hit for a start.

And if the filter hits the runner what happens???...
Kaboom!
Instant retard

[ezy10s]

OH SOO FUNNY!!! my god!
and soo true

[crnkin]

If your manifold hit all those things, just remember, measure 25 thousand times, cut once. Only thing i needed to do was made a small dent in runner #2 for the oil filter, as it hit for a start.

And if the filter hits the runner what happens???...
Kaboom!
Instant retard

nope, lasted a month. Not instant. wheres your 4agte.

No kaboom either. lasted well over a week after that. only leaked at 180 on the motorway bumping on rev limiter.

At least im doing it, not $&#$% round with campag

[ezy10s]

I think you'll find his 4agte is actually a 7agte and its now in haydens carina.....

[Dorift 180]

Wow a Whole month! That's awesome! Can you hook a brother up?
Where do you find the time to drive that fast on a motorway. Quite irresponsible! Keep it on the track.

ps. don't come to auckland...
Can you turbo a K-series motor for me. I hear you're tha Shizz at that too.