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by **Pies** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:50 pm

GH wrote:What about antilag for response

one of my ex girlfriends had anit-gag

does that count?

by **IH8TEC** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:09 pm

Pies wrote:
GH wrote:What about antilag for response

one of my ex girlfriends had anit-gag

does that count?

that is awesome :lol:

if only they all had that option

by **NZ_AE86** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:53 am

nzae86 wrote:

Still reckon that 11500RPM will sound better than a hair drier any day !!! .
Horsepower doesn't always win races

Agree.

by **blackie** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:35 am

NZ_AE86 wrote:
nzae86 wrote:

Still reckon that 11500RPM will sound better than a hair drier any day !!! .
Horsepower doesn't always win races

Agree.

I thought u were quoting yourself there for a second :lol:

mmm atlantic 4age, thats awesome..
that spoon wanking on about going the turbo route should shushhh cuz atlantic is infinitely more rare and badass !

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:45 am

yes true,
but 3sgte is still cool.

in a perfect world id have both

by **RedMist** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 6:42 pm

The more modern Atlantics have gotten a little boring with a 9.5k rev limit, cams, ports, TB's to match. They still pull 240'ish HP's though. Pretty impressive out of a little 1589cc engine.

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 7:55 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:yes true,
but 3sgte is still cool.

by **EarthwurmJurm** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 9:44 pm

can someone enlighten me to what exactly an atlantic 4age is ?

by **Pelo** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 10:45 pm

http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/Tech%20Photos/Scrapbook/Atlantic_Engine.jpg
Race spec 4age from formula atlantic single seater race cars used in the 90s, 240hp from 1.6 litres

Google it...

by **NZ_AE86** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:09 am

EarthwurmJurm wrote:can someone enlighten me to what exactly an atlantic 4age is ?

Race Motor
Expensive to Build
More Expensive to run
Requires frequent rebuilds
Rev to well above 10000rpm
Quite Rare but they are around in many forms.
Very Cool!

by **sergei** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:11 am

Hand Grenade with the pin out.

by **bluemaumau** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:27 pm

sergei wrote:Hand Grenade with the pin out.

rotary?

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:44 pm

A reciprocating motor that pulls in excess of 10,000rpm is going to be far less reliable than a rotary

Much like a PP motor, lifespan is measured in hours.

by **RomanV** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:49 pm

How heavy is the AE86 gonna be? I recall a few people saying that an atlantic engine would be a waste of time in anything more than 600kgs, due to their absolute lack of power below some stupid RPM level, like 6000 or something, haha.

Although IIRC this was due to the cam spec, which was limited for the sake of the competition class.

Dont quote me on that though, I'm a self confessed 4AGE noob.
Just a thought.

by **NZ_AE86** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:09 pm

Things like flywheel weight will help fight that problem but a really light AE86 can be under 600kgs. My Race-car that is still road legal, full glass, many bar cage, no real weight savings except fibreglass bonnet is 870kgs.

by JT » Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:42 am

NZ_AE86 wrote:Things like flywheel weight will help fight that problem but a really light AE86 can be under 600kgs. My Race-car that is still road legal, full glass, many bar cage, no real weight savings except fibreglass bonnet is 870kgs.

With how much gas? My car must have a heavy bonnet as with 3/4 of a tank of gas, basically standard GTV it came in at 990kg. Scales are accurate to +or- 5kg.

by **Adamal** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:25 am

RomanV wrote: I recall a few people saying that an atlantic engine would be a waste of time in anything more than 600kgs, due to their absolute lack of power below some stupid RPM level, like 6000 or something, haha.

Not true. I saw it on Initial D, therefore it must be true.

by **RomanV** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:29 am

It wasnt a formula atlantic engine on initial D noob

OMG so shiny! · by **Dell'Orto** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:11 am

I thought in the later battles he did use an Atlantic engine?

/ot

by **nzae86** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:17 am

Well this engine is destined for my ae 86 that I had started fitting a 1uzfe into, but without cutting the car to bits the V8 sat to high , to far forward, and just didn't look right for the balance that is required to make a car go fast . I had competed in a couple of events in my 16valve ae86 and a 1uzfe rx7 with all the good bits I was faster , and a 1uzfe ae86 was not all that much faster that my mild 16valve on a open flowing 7km tarmac rallysprint.So i went away rethinking what I was going to achieve by building this car any further.
So I knew of this engine and bought it . The car will probably only be used for track work as i don't see it being drivable on the road .
It will run a T series rear end and a t50 box as per the N2 cars of the time , so I amagine it will weigh in about 850kg or less as my tarmac rally car with glass bonnet and gaurds only is about 930kg , ready to rally .
With the dry sump set up it allows the engine to sit a little lower and can be pushed back a bit as well . My aim is to have it as close as posible to the N2 spec that these cars were raced in . I have the complete N2 TRD manual so I know what I need to do
Every one can try and tell me it wont work but at least I'll know because I will have done it .

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