12a kp60

[4agtepwr]

Who heres done it and what sorta work is involved to make them fit?
Just wondering how hard it is to make the rx7 s1 gearbox fit in a kp60 tunnel?

[toyae86]

it's not that hard rotor's are easy to fit the box should fit without to much hassle w55 will fit have a look at import x fitting the engine wouldnt be to much different to the ke30

if you get stuck pm me i can point you in the right direction

[l1ttle_d3vil]

pretty sure they go straight in without any mods to the tunnel or anything. i know someone with that exact conversion (they didnt do it though) but ill see if it looks like they're tunnels being taken to with a sledge hammer

[RS13]

I have assisted with a 12A conversion into a KP60, its' reasonably straight forward, but mostly you need to consider what the car is going to be used for. Most kits mount the motor quite far forward, which means that you won't need to mod firewall to get it to fit.

But having such a light car with a relatively heavy 12A sitting too far forward of the centre of gravity makes for terrible handling. If you're looking to do this properly, I would recommend sitting the motor back as far as possible, which necessitates modification of the firewall and transmission tunnel, but this allows for a significantly better balance and handling. Don't forget a decent rear end and brakes as well.

Or, if you're just wanting a KP with a rota bro, just fabricate/buy a chassis-mounting kit (which basically means that you've got 2 plates bolted to the chassis rails/radiator support crossmember, which the engine crossmember bolts to), make up a custom gearbox crossmember, get a custom driveshaft made up, find an SA22 engine loom to splice into the KP loom, install an electric fuel pump and lines, set up the hydraulic clutch, mount coils etc, you're away.

You may want to invest in a few spare KP diffs, (it doesn't matter wether you weld it up or not, you're still only going to get about 3 decent skids out of it!) and perhaps sort some bigger brakes off another early 80's Toyota (I can't remember what we used.. may have even been AE85?).

So yeah. Hope you either got mad hookups or deep pockets though aye, anything rotary these days is getting damn expensive and hard to find.. I personally wouldn't do it again, with setting it up properly for cert, you'd be better off just going out now and spending your hard earned money on a series 4 or 5.. possibly even a batty!

Just things to take into consideration.

[4agtepwr]

The car was going to get my angry little 4agte in it with w55 but alas things have changed a little so that engine and box prob arnt going to see that car. It has a shorted celica diff with te71 discs and a F series lsd in it which was good for 300hp and 12.3s in another starlet. front brakes are....... well will be when vvega sends me my calipers are 280mm vented bluebird rotors and twin pot turbo sw20 calipers.
So brakes and diff arnt going to be a problem. Yeah handling is a big thing to me, its not a skid car, and im and engineer well Automotive Machinest by trade- big way of saying i rebuild engines for a job lol, so making things isnt to much of an issue. Just haven't seen a rotary kp in the flesh before.
Anyone got any pics of any rotary conversions?
Cheers rs13 would be good to have a chat to you about it.

[4agtepwr]

bump if anyones got pics im just keen to see some setups or info
cheers

[RS13]

Sweet as buddy. If you've got any questions, throw me a PM, I'll do my best to answer them!

[myke]

And this is what you should be doing to your starlet....

[EarthwurmJurm]

thats a rather large turbo.

[strx7]

WTF is that engine? looks like a shortened down JZ, or altezza 3SGE but it doesn't look right...............???

its an altezza engine and the photo has been mirror'd hence the master cylinder resivour is on the left in the pic..........

[mr pad]

Hmm. Looks like a hilux engine to me?

[Mr.Phreak]

Yeah, looks rather RZish

[myke]

[4agtepwr]

i think its a 3rz? hilux engine its on the microtech website if you search it some were, dose a high 8s, from the US i think prob faster now. F*&kin Cool little car