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NATS help: how to make a silvertop trueno fast in a day?????

Postby RAZA » Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:55 am

Some friends of mine in the Primera car club have got themselves in a competition at the Rotor Nats run by the organisors which involves them competing against team onboost.

each team has been given a car, and they have to make it as fast/stylish as possible so that it can go to the drags tomorrow against the other team. Team onboost has been given an early 80's honda accord and NZPCC has been given an ae101 silvertop trueno.

The NZPCC team have started with weight reduction and have pulled everything unnecesary out, but they are now looking for more....

What they are wondering, is does anyone have any parts they could borrow, such as turbo/manifold combinations, that could be bolted on for the day and then given back?

Also any advice from knowledgable toyspeeders about how to get the best out of a really old tired silvertop 4age would be awesome... (either drop into the nzpcc stand at the show or post here)

Thanks for your help :)
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Postby TOYROTA » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:35 am

thats a pretty good idea for a competition, fast+ ae101........
i got it [b]2JZGTE.
nah sorry bro i got nuttin but thats is a good idea.
sort of like junkyard wars but without the junkyard.
all the best with the comp
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:49 am

theres a sard ecu FS sumwhere :lol: they make a big difference
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:51 am

lol onboost have been ripped :lol:

see if acesniper will lease you his SARD ecu for a day :wink:

other than that, theres stuff all else you can do other make sure things are as they should be.

what about that thread from aaagggeees ago where some americans took a car to the strip and stripped it out and chopped bits off to make it lighter.
do that :lol:
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Postby flygt4 » Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:52 am

allowed semislicks? see if you can find someone with a set of rims with semislicks on them :lol:
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:33 am

HA HA HA HA team onboost got an early 80's honda accord there is like a 10 year difference between the two cars. Gutted for team onboost.
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Postby Bling » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:44 am

try and make is look as close to a levin as you can, Levins are faster ;) :lol:
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Postby no_8wire » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:46 am

As was said....chop chop chop!
Remove/cut all unnecessary weight...roof, bonnets, boot etc...

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Postby RAZA » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:52 am

TRD_ZERO wrote:HA HA HA HA team onboost got an early 80's honda accord there is like a 10 year difference between the two cars. Gutted for team onboost.


yeah I think there was a coin toss and nzpcc won the toss and chose the trueno... :lol:

I should have said before it has to pass scrutineering at the drags so can't be too cut up.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:55 am

maybe mod the rear struts to make them solid.
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Postby AceSniper » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:01 pm

PM me if you wanna run the sard ecu, ill be there but not sure what time :/
Run as free flowing exhust as possable they love it
try and borrow some blacktop extractors
pull the plenum off and clean the itb's an ditch pcv
auto trans fluid the gbox


prolly not much else you can do unless you got access to more stuff b4 the day...
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Postby AceSniper » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:03 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:maybe mod the rear struts to make them solid.


yea will help abit with traction :D


could possably borrow my ARC box to if I can be assed removing it, engines not going to like the heat of the day so coldest air you can get into it the better
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:04 pm

yeah ditch that pcv.... and if u get the SARD ecu get the best fuel u can at least 98 and set it at stock timing (10deg, dont forget to bridge terminals) maybe put 12 on it if u can get some better fuel.

maybe even bodge up a straight pipe from the down pipe on
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Postby AceSniper » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:17 pm

ditch the belt that runs ac/ps
make sure the 2nd belt isnt to tight.. just enough to grip

if ur stuck for oil valvoline VR1 seams to be a light oil that works well in them

if you have access to a adjustable fpr throw it on and make sure you get a vacume from all 4... stock one runs off one tb
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Postby sergei » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:22 pm

just unbolt exhaust just before cat. conv.
Weight reduction is biggest thing, scoop up the sound deadnig material, get rid of carpet, get rid of speakers, get rid of aircon gear/brackets, get rid of power steering (not really needed in a drag car), get rid of heater/aircon crap that sits under dash (with heater just loop the heater pipes). get rid of passanger seats and rear sits if have not done so. Unbolt unnecisery brackets
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Postby RAZA » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:32 pm

OK so far some extreme weight reduction has gone on, the whole interior is gone, they are welding in a lightweight race seat and have kept the door cards in case they need them at scruitineering...

They've cut the exhaust at the bottom of the headers and are building a straight pipe exiting on the passenger side of the car.

what and where is the pcv?
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Postby AceSniper » Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:35 pm

The hose that runs from the cam cover to the inlet, vent the cam cover into a bottle and block off the inlet side so there is no vacume leak.
The gray pcv valve thats down near your oil cap in the cam cover, remove the short black hose run a hose from the gray valve into the bottle, block off the side thats on the itb side.

Its important you clean the throttle bodys tho get all the gunk out, some would disagree but the plastic trumpits in the plenum cut them along the seams so you have abit of funnel into the TB but the high flow for top end
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Postby Caveman » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:09 pm

you can chop up the doors , all the inside reenforcement and just have the bare panel, dont even have locks or anything. technically you need a roll cage with side intrusion for this but they shouldnt mind.

Also cut up the ribs under the bonnet, cut a hole and stick the afm in open, maybe run no filter if your keen.

Also take out rear side glass and replace with lightweight sheet, maybe you could do the rear windscreen too, you would have to look up the technicality on if its road legal or not
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Postby AceSniper » Sat Jan 27, 2007 1:28 pm

remove any play thats in the throttle cable... there is norm abit of nana slack init
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Postby Infinite » Sat Jan 27, 2007 3:36 pm

$%@@# it all! i have a 3sgte grp a on my floor and most the parts to put it into a levin lets transplant :P leave that honda for dead
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