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Postby The_Lorax » Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:46 pm

Hello,

4AGE alternators have 2 plugs on them - one with a nut that the terminal attaches to and second white plug.

Does the second white plug have to be connected for the alternator to charge?

I swapped my suspect alternator (blue sticker) with a similar 4age alternator (red sticker) but for some reason the plug in my loom won't connect to the new alternator and it isn't charging.

I have an AW11 with a blacktop 20v and a 16v alternator bracket and alternator.
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Postby big_boy » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:34 pm

yes it provides power to the alternator so it can creat a magnet witch makes it charge
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Postby Bling » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:39 pm

should only take 5 minutes to cut the plug off and work out the wiring off the alternators to work with the plug you have that fits. Thats what I did, but didnt fix my problem :(
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Postby matt dunn » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:56 pm

The one with the nut is the main Batt supply.

the other has 3 wires which are sensing, ignition, and warning light.

If there is no power onto teh ign wire on the 3 pin plug the alternator thinks the car is turned off and wont try to charge.
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Postby The_Lorax » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:18 am

That would explain my flat battery :lol:

I'll look at it this weekend.
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Postby Barks » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:16 am

Look at http://www.autoshop101.com - there's a really good section in the technical articles on toyota alternators and how to diagnose problems.

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Postby The_Lorax » Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:11 pm

I had a chat to Tex & showed him some photos

Apparently I had a 20V alternator mated to my 16v AW11 body loom. I'm going to go and buy a multimeter and check a few things.

Recharge the battery and check:

- When the car is running is the voltage between the terminals 13-14v?

- When the car is on but not started, is the 20v alternator getting an ignition signal (12v with voltmeter between earth and middle pin on my body loom)

- When the car is off, is there low resistance between the 'B' bolted connection on the alt and the battery?

If the alt isn't getting an ignition signal I can hopefully put my old one back in and fix my ignition wiring.

If the 20v alt is getting an ignition singal and has continuity with the battery the alternator must be toast. To fix it i'll either need to buy another 20v alternator / recondition mine or find the alternator plug off a bluetop body loom so i can solder it to my loom and connect the 16v alternator.

I was asleep in physics class so this should be interesting.
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Postby Cakky » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:09 pm

we've just encountered the same problem tonight with my car, the alternator won't seem to hold charge, so will check the ign wire on the three pin plug as matt says and see what happens hopefully it works :(
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Postby big_boy » Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:42 am

alternator won't seem to hold charge


i dont know if you are confused of just worded that rong but you do relise
1-the battrie holds the charge as appose to the alternator
2-& the alternator charges it but dousent hold charge

dont you
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Postby Silent Knight » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:14 am

I think anyone trying to read what you are posting would be confused somewhat...
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Postby big_boy » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:15 am

have you got a better way of wording it if so post it & il wipe mine
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:35 am

i think hes reffering to the speeling and grammar :wink:
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Postby Cakky » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:42 pm

we connected my old 16v alternator tonight using the plug off my old loom, no problems now battery holds charge, also noted the wires on a 16v alternator plug are a lot thicker than that on the 20v alternator. working fine now..
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Postby thaphatty » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:16 am

big_boy wrote:
alternator won't seem to hold charge


i dont know if you are confused of just worded that rong but you do relise
1-the battrie holds the charge as appose to the alternator
2-& the alternator charges it but dousent hold charge

dont you


This post was explainitory and necessary, I understood it, grammar or no grammar. This isnt a english exam. No need to be petty.

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Postby Bling » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:30 pm

matt dunn wrote:If there is no power onto teh ign wire on the 3 pin plug the alternator thinks the car is turned off and wont try to charge.


cheers for that advice, fixed my problem i've been working on for a few weeks 8) :lol:
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