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Postby GecKo » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:30 am

Defective wrote:haha, how about a K20A powered ae111.... now that would be interesting... Not sure who would get more pissed... honda people or toyota people...


Do it! Another hot one is the F20C out of an S2000. Pretty much a north/south K20A, and it's been transplanted into lots of things, AE86, KP starlets etc.

Tranquil wrote:Why is that you ask? Because the valve train wont survive WOT at max rpm for three hours on end. Competition is the true test.. 4ag has passed this test countless times.


$&#$%, lol.
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Postby BWDOWN » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:40 am

deaf_rattle wrote:please state why "B16A>any 4AGE" or are you one of those people that like rotors because they "sound cool"


How many times do we have to go round in circles?? I think this thread has already proven my statment above. I also think the previous thread proved the same again...

If you choose not to read what has been posted thats your choice, just dont moan when you get the same impartial view in return. All I'll say is past dyno days and HvT drag days...
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Postby deaf_rattle » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:41 am

hvt drags? correct me if im wrong, but isnt toyota always out numbered by the honda team?
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Postby MacrosSiR » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:47 am

BWDOWN wrote:
deaf_rattle wrote:please state why "B16A>any 4AGE" or are you one of those people that like rotors because they "sound cool"


How many times do we have to go round in circles?? I think this thread has already proven my statment above. I also think the previous thread proved the same again...

If you choose not to read what has been posted thats your choice, just dont moan when you get the same impartial view in return. All I'll say is past dyno days and HvT drag days...


this threads about honda motors. the other one seems to be the 4agvb16 thread
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:50 am

MacrosSiR wrote:pdf of JG engine dynamics's turn key engine list.
http://jgenginedynamics.com/Adobe%20pdf ... _15_05.pdf
one is designed for 340+hp. Although again it's bored and stoked to 2.3L

Dyno sheet for 239hp stock crank b16a
http://jgenginedynamics.com/_dyno%20pdf ... 0239HP.pdf


They also sell 7age engines too


awesome, thanks for that
some of those are actaully quite cheap i reckon!
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Postby MacrosSiR » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:53 am

I use a set of their cam gears which I recommend. :)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:14 pm

thats quite a good site....

i wish more builders had a site with as much in it!!
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Postby doongy » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:18 pm

MacrosSiR wrote:pdf of JG engine dynamics's turn key engine list.
http://jgenginedynamics.com/Adobe%20pdf ... _15_05.pdf
one is designed for 340+hp. Although again it's bored and stoked to 2.3L

Dyno sheet for 239hp stock crank b16a
http://jgenginedynamics.com/_dyno%20pdf ... 0239HP.pdf


They also sell 7age engines too


Not quite a b16a as it has 85mm pistons, b16a has 81mm. That one there is most likey a sleeved b16a
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Postby MacrosSiR » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:27 pm

awww come on... 4mm overbore is still a b16a.
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Postby Lith » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:28 pm

doongy wrote:Not quite a b16a as it has 85mm pistons, b16a has 81mm. That one there is most likey a sleeved b16a


He only said it had stock crank, not stock displacement. Most built motors have a bit of deviation from the stock displacement, though yeah thats a bit of an increase.

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BWDOWN wrote:How many times do we have to go round in circles?? I think this thread has already proven my statment above. I also think the previous thread proved the same again...


Please don't wreck this thread. This isn't a vs thread, or a "this is better"... when the comparisons have come up they've been good reading. Just saying "B16As are better, its been proven" is just a wind up and adds nothing to this conversation.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:48 pm

yep.... again.. this isnt Vs thread....

but a genuine attempt at learning more about honda engines.....



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Postby GecKo » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:35 pm

Lith wrote:Please don't wreck this thread. This isn't a vs thread, or a "this is better"... when the comparisons have come up they've been good reading. Just saying "B16As are better, its been proven" is just a wind up and adds nothing to this conversation.


Please don't point the finger at the people not wrecking it.

If you want to learn about honda engines Mr Revhead -> http://nzhondas.com/
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Postby garg » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:19 pm

GecKo wrote:
Lith wrote:Please don't wreck this thread. This isn't a vs thread, or a "this is better"... when the comparisons have come up they've been good reading. Just saying "B16As are better, its been proven" is just a wind up and adds nothing to this conversation.


Please don't point the finger at the people not wrecking it.


Lol at gecko feeling the need to defend his fellow nzhondas mod (bwdown) even though bwdown not only "told" the wrong person off but also started the whole unneeded which engine is best argument again.

I think there are a lot of positives to discussion like this. I am always intruiged when it comes to high hp NA builds, no matter which manufacturer. My personal favourite is some of the k20/k24's being built over in the USA
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Postby BWDOWN » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:55 pm

garg wrote:Lol at gecko feeling the need to defend his fellow nzhondas mod (bwdown) even though bwdown not only "told" the wrong person off but also started the whole unneeded which engine is best argument again.


I didnt restart the argument, I never posted in the other thread after here. I wasnt telling anyone off just replying to his comment. I'd quote myself but then I'd only be going round in circles like this thread..

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Postby fivebob » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:08 pm

These brand-X vs brand-Y arguments never reach any conclusions, blind brand loyalty always wins out. :twisted:

In reality any properly designed NA engine of the same capacity will ultimately reach the same HP/Litre output. The only differences between brands would be more in the area of reliability and cost to get to that ultimate HP/L output. So saying one engine is better than another, based soley on stock or slightly modified power output, only covers a very small fraction of what makes for a superior engine.

I would suggest that those who wish to continue the debate just get down to what the really want to prove, and drop trou, get the micrometer out and start measuring :P

Now could we please get back on topic and provide some details of high HP Honda engines. ;)
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Postby deaf_rattle » Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:14 pm

after much searching i think ive found the answer
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/hsh/346853714.html

5hp for a honda motor.. must be some sort of record :lol:

in all seriousness, this looks the business
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Postby Dell'Orto » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:56 pm

Is that a Beat or something?
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Postby malc » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:30 pm

think it's an NSX.
That and the s2000 are my favorite Hondas
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Postby Defective » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:39 pm

Razz wrote:think it's an NSX.
That and the s2000 are my favorite Hondas


looks too small for a nsx.... look at the size of the bride seats in relation to the window
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Postby bluemaumau » Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:49 pm

mr2?
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Where the $&#$% is that oil leak coming from /club

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