4agte conversion (the beginning)

[try_hard]

ok so its time to start getting the parts to do the bottom end for the the silvertop to turbo it.

bits im looking at getting are:
4AGZE pistons (toyota)
TRD con-rods (TRD toyota) ((can i get 20mm G-Pins from toyota?))
bearings & caps all genuian from toyota
4AGZE crank (toyota)
was thinking a T67 turbo. i have been told these will spool up faster than a t3/t4 as am planning on getting the Head all done in the future once the bottom end is done as well.

any other opinions, sugestions?

ok just to keep in mind this is pritty much an open check book project. and when i am at the strip would like to run around 30psi. would like to get around 500HP in the long run

EDIT i see my post has been edited im taking it i cant post links well any way the pistons im looking at getting now are from ARIAS, and am thinking to get the con rods from them as well. i cant see any reason not to.

[Dell'Orto]

A T67 is a little on the large side for a 4AGTE. Never heard of TRD conrods, nothing wrong with silvertop ones unless you're planning on pushing lots and lots of boost into it, in which case early GZE rods will be ample for.
4AGZE crank is the same as 4AGE of the same vintage.
Really depends on your end goal and budget as to how far to go with it.

[IH8TEC]

open check book, forget gze pistons and rods, go straight to forged rods AND pistons. your gonna need plenty of headwork and big cams to get enough flow for 500hp, and also to help spool up the EXCESSIVELY large turbo you wanna put on it. it will not spool up faster than 85% of t3/t4 turbos out there (honda's can cause they rev higher and flow bucket loads more but still would be like 5-6k before full boost. get a 20v block as they have oil squirters. and get pistons to suit. get about 800-850cc injectors. with that turbo you will have a very short powerband. my clutch is rated to 450hp. so anymore and you'd want a twin plate as mine is the max you'll get one a gze flywheel

i'm sure i've forgotten heaps, but it's been a long day

[Caveman]

wow 500HP. you might be better off using a completely different motor. What car is it going in?

[IH8TEC]

someone wants 10's

also, if you do it right, and work the right areas you might not need 30psi with such a big turbo to get 500hp

also the main problem with the blocks at that sorta power is cracking the sleeves

[Mr Revhead]

TRD rods are 19mm

as mentioned aboce, the cranks are the same

may i suggest some research, theres a tonne of info out there and it appears your not overly familier with the 4age.

500hp will cost you a lot. well done if you can do it for under... oh say $20k

[try_hard]

thanks for the help guys. yes i was thinking the t67 mite of been abit of overkill so maby the t3/t4 is a better idea. but yes am planning to get the head done once the block is compleated. was thinking for cams the 264 duration with the 8.1 lift over the 272, 8.1 life. i havent put a price cap on the project as i want it to be top quality, and worth the $ and time that gose into these things. 10's would be nice.
i'm lead to believe the fastest 4age run 9's. is this rite.

its going into a ae92 trueno at the moment but are having other thoughts at the moment or maby a old skool rolla.

here are some parts i have thinking of.
pistons: http://www.atomicspeedware.com/ariastoytest1.html
con rods: http://www.atomicspeedware.com/rodtoycrow.htm (not the titaniaum)

[~SlideWays~]

thanks for the help guys. yes i was thinking the t67 mite of been abit of overkill so maby the t3/t4 is a better idea. but yes am planning to get the head done once the block is compleated. was thinking for cams the 264 duration with the 8.1 lift over the 272, 8.1 life. i havent put a price cap on the project as i want it to be top quality, and worth the $ and time that gose into these things. 10's would be nice.
i'm lead to believe the fastest 4age run 9's. is this rite.

its going into a ae92 trueno at the moment but are having other thoughts at the moment or maby a old skool rolla.

I don't know what the fastest 4age 1/4 mile is but you will probably want to decide if to go fwd or rwd.

Fwd is going to be the hardest to achieve any quick times....especially with 500hp.

500hp is a pretty big goal (read : expensive) for a 1.6L 4age either way.

I've got 300hp in my fwd 4age and its pretty useless in 1st and 2nd

[levinguy]

why not copy bazda's 7agte setup and play with the head - proven power and reliability already, and room for more power with cams

its boring, but its been done before

[tsoob]

yeah mate do your research solid and work out exactally what you are aiming to do with it before you make decisions on rods/crank and turbo, mine is still not even running and already up over 9 grand, im looking for 200kw atw with a reasonable ammount of reliablilty, if you got open cheque book then great, i started with open cheque book and now its almost got no cheques left......

[IH8TEC]

i started with open cheque book and now its almost got no cheques left......

[try_hard]

nice

i have done abit of research. i understand it is going to be expensive, but its a toyota and in my eyes its worth it.

[tsoob]

i have done abit of research. i understand it is going to be expensive, but its a toyota and in my eyes its worth it.

yeah too right at least you got the dream out in front of you!!! good luck

[try_hard]

a brief update on whats been slowly hapening to the 4age. it is striped down and on a stand. parts aquired so far for the bottom end since its what im focusing on first are:

Pistons BRC moded for oil squirters
Rods Spool H beam rods
ACL racing bearings
crank has had a grind and been polished.

i wont get into the head yet as there are still parts im after.

(if any one has ITB adaptors for ST ITB im interisted for the right price)

[Quirky]

TRD rods are 19mm

as mentioned aboce, the cranks are the same

may i suggest some research, theres a tonne of info out there and it appears your not overly familier with the 4age.

500hp will cost you a lot. well done if you can do it for under... oh say $20k

If i could make (or get someone to make) a Toyota Corolla with a 4AG Turbo for 20 gran making 500 hp, im there.
Note to self - Complete degree in engineering and get paid bucket loads.

[AE86less]

Stick an engine like that in an aw11 and you'll be sorted.
Wayy quicker than fwd down the strip and girls love 'em!

I've been told my aw is "like a rocket ship"

My friend's closet gay brother called it cute

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[3T-Rona]

you could buy my KE30 and slap it in there, hell buy my small port and u've got the rwd water pump plus a whole lot of spares

[matt dunn]

why not copy bazda's 7agte setup and play with the head - proven power and reliability already, and room for more power with cams

its boring, but its been done before

Hey there, I have a Bazz copied setup, and am only 3/4 of his HP,
and it is in no way boring, lol

I built my last 200Kw 4AGE 20V on the cheap,

200kw was easy, however 220kw was almost impossible with that setup,
every time I tried to get more we struck problems.

[try_hard]

yes am looking out for an old KE or SR coupe. if one hasn't poped up by the time the engine is compleated i'll plave it in the ae92