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Postby Lanius » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:36 pm

Getting an AE82 GT liftback a wof. Its had the rear seats removed, and the WOF mechanic has advised I need to get the seatbelt-mount bolt holes welded over before he can give it a WOF.

I need someone to do the welding for me, happy to pay either cash or beers for time and materials, depending on your preference :)

Please PM me with any details if you can help.

Thanks! :)
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Postby sergei » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:01 pm

You don't need to weld the seat belt mounts!!!
I have passed 4 times by different VINZ inspector on my car without rear seats.
I specifically inquired with LTSA to see if I need to do something about missing seat, response I got stated "as long as there are no seat belts mounted it is completely fine". Nothing about welding holes.
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Postby Bling » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:09 pm

I got told by WOF guy he wouldn't pass it without rear seats, 4dr kp60. I had removed EVERYTHING in the rear...... I wish everyone was consistent :evil:
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Postby Lanius » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:14 pm

sergei wrote:You don't need to weld the seat belt mounts!!!
I have passed 4 times by different VINZ inspector on my car without rear seats.
I specifically inquired with LTSA to see if I need to do something about missing seat, response I got stated "as long as there are no seat belts mounted it is completely fine". Nothing about welding holes.


You have PM :P
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Postby sergei » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:14 pm

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/certifiers/virm-in-service/general-07-v3.pdf


http://www.lvvta.org.nz/newindex6.html



Dear Certed,

What's the deal with stripped out interiors? I have pulled all the carpet out of my Honda Civic SiR as well as the rear seats and all the plastic trim in the back and the boot. All I've got left is the two front seats and seatbelts, the dash and centre console etc... Now the problem is, I went for a WoF and was failed. They said because it had no interior that it was a race car and I'd have to take it someone else. I can't see what this has to do with safety, as the only thing different up the front of the car is no carpet, everything else is standard? Is there anything I can do, or will I have to put it all back in? Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Martin.

Hi Martin,

I don't know why they refused to do your WoF inspection but they may have felt you'd increased the risk of occupant injury in a crash by removal of the trim bits. There's no problem with saving weight but be sure not to remove any of the interior trim or padding around the dashboard or the front seats like door panels or pillar covering, where sharp edges might be exposed. Assuming that's all OK and there are no sharp nasty bits, the only remaining issue is the rear seat removal.

As removal of seats falls within the definition of 'modifications' to a vehicle, then the section of the Vehicle Inspection Requirements Manual (VIRM) that lists 'Modifications that do not require LVV certification' has to be checked. That says that LVV certification is not required where the only modification is the removal of seats and/or seatbelt anchorages, however a class change and a new load rating may be required in some cases. If your vehicle was a van, seat removal might affect the class of vehicle, but as yours is a car, you may remove rear seats, and even the passenger seat without LVV certification. You should point out to the WoF issuer that they will find this on page 7-1-2 of the VIRM.

Good luck!

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Tell your WOF inspector to read carefully page 7-1-2 of the VIRM.
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Postby Trls250s » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:21 pm

This is a very good thread and very ensightful. I think information like this should be grouped together and stickied for future referance. I was thinking about doing the same thing to my AE85 Notch, but was unsure of what the ramifications of this would be.

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Postby ollieboy » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:32 pm

Thats interesting about how you can even remove the passenger seat. Good Work sergei, I've been wondering about that for a while but never though to ask.
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Postby Silent Knight » Tue Sep 18, 2007 4:32 pm

sergei is correct, I called and e-mailed LTSA when I had my Supra to check about the seatbelt thing. As long as you remove the seatbelts along with the rear chairs it is perfectly legal.
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Postby Lanius » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:54 pm

Thanks guys, I will raise this with my mechanic and see what he says :) He's bloody good, and an awesome guy, so I don't want to step on any toes. Not going to let a welding torch loose inside the car if I don't have to though ;)

Sergei saves the day :D
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Postby rollaholic » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:57 pm

seems to be a common misconception, i ran into the same problem at a VTNZ a few years back with one of my fxgts.
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Postby Lanius » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:57 pm

Went to see him, explained everything, showed him a printed out copy of this thread, and he was sweet as. Passed WOF with flying colours ;)

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