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by **allsecretlove777** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:00 pm

I found this car on trademe, http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =140199710
and it looks like it has a 3-au in rwd setup like a Ae85. Is this car a factory RWD?

by **Zak** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:07 pm

They are FWD, just run a setup like FWD subarus and some euros.

by **Paulio** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:42 pm

any theory why they north-southed the engine for fwd? revvy?

by **Zak** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:39 pm

not_paul_from_waiheke wrote:any theory why they north-southed the engine for fwd? revvy?

Remember skotys dirt track car, thats the same thing. It would of been made for a different market with a lot of excess 3a's i imagine. As time goes on they find them selves all sorts of places.

by **TURCEL** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:20 pm

Yeah its just a really early FWD design, before the E series engine was around. Also it was aimed as a entry level hatch back into the US market, 3AU already had all its legal requriments

So much cheaper in the short term but they ditched the idea for the next gen and went with the E series for the rest of them.

There are a few 20v ones in the states but I dont think the drivetrain was very strong, so not a very popular conversion.

The latest Corolla 2 EL53 is the same size as the first Corolla KE10 :lol:

by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:23 pm

not_paul_from_waiheke wrote:any theory why they north-southed the engine for fwd? revvy?

yes

it was designed on a friday

after work drinks

sake fcuks you up man......

by **fangsport** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:27 pm

quite possibly the answer ,Revvy.
was gonna add that it made it easier to set-up the 4wd Tercel/carib of the same vintage.

by **matt dunn** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:31 pm

fangsport wrote:quite possibly the answer ,Revvy.
was gonna add that it made it easier to set-up the 4wd Tercel/carib of the same vintage.

Yeah there was a 4wd wagon version of the same shape/era.

My missus had one as a first car,
Horrible to drive, and the gearbox's are one of the worst by toyota.

May be 3A powered, but have about 1/2 the power of a 3A powered AE85.

by **FST4RD** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:04 am

Alot of the dirty big old american classics are north south facing motors and FWD... go figure..

by **Snoozin** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:19 am

FST4RD wrote:Alot of the dirty big old american classics are north south facing motors and FWD... go figure..

Audi's are the worst, N/S 5cyl inline, heaps of weight over the front, terrible understeerers. The concept worked fine in the Alfa's, with the N/S front tugging flat 4's though.

The big Yank V8 FWD's were actually quite well regarded for their traction in the snow over a good cold US winter. Still, chassis dynamics were about as important as contracting herpes to the engineers in the States in those days, no doubt.

Mate had a Corolla II SR with a bluetop 4AGE in it, some years ago. Surprised heaps of people.

by **KwS** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:59 am

Snoozin wrote:Mate had a Corolla II SR with a bluetop 4AGE in it, some years ago. Surprised heaps of people.

now that would be a laugh and a half.

i saw one of these rollas a few years ago at a wrecker and was just like, wtf?

Whats the gearbox, and is it used in anything else?

by **drftnmaz** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:08 pm

i had one of these years ago and i quite liked it... hard case car with the indistrucable 3A-U. It has nearly the same suspension as the fxgt, even has the adjustable camber in the front, i ran shocks+springs out of a fxgt (are they ae82?) but after i blew the second g/box i gave up and send it to the scrap yard.

they even came out in a sport model with bigger bumpers, side skirts and twin carbs (twin downdraft su looking things)

by **Jdawg** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:29 pm

Snoozin wrote:Audi's are the worst, N/S 5cyl inline, heaps of weight over the front, terrible understeerers. The concept worked fine in the Alfa's, with the N/S front tugging flat 4's though.

I heard from an uncle that they made good mid mount conversions in kit cars, along with a similar designed Peugot set up. You just take the whole engine/trans set up and move it to the back.

by **Snoozin** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:20 pm

Alfa's or Audi's? Or both?

Alfa flat 4 engines and transaxles have been used in quite a few kit car things! Good motors too, but I would say that :lol:

by **d1 mule** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:28 pm

The new Holden Epica is a 2l East West Straight 6.........

.....nice one munroe

by **rollaholic** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:48 pm

theres a few volvos like that too. (transverse inline 6)

by **Snoozin** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:03 pm

What the hell spurred this E/W straight six talk?

Austin Kimberley, y'all. Betcha half of you don't even know what one of them is.

by **fangsport** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:13 pm

Snoozin wrote:Austin Kimberley, y'all. Betcha half of you don't even know what one of them is.

friggin' ugly old landcrab

by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:15 pm

a stretched one no less...

curse you for dredging up the memory of those awful things...

by **fangsport** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:28 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:a stretched one no less...

curse you for dredging up the memory of those awful things...

not a bad demo derby car, no match for a valiant though.

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