Kid clocked at 178km/h.. What do we really do?

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Postby stalker » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:02 pm

solitaire wrote:
xsspeed wrote:yeah thats what i was tryna get at but then thought about if joe bloggs say disobeyed a stop sign or whatever, yes he could have endangered someone, or hit , hurt or killed someone, and then be stung with something much more serious than just running a stop sign, which by the way i am not condoning nor do i do, i just used it as an example,
Yeah... i think its only really doable where excess speeds are involved... perhaps a compulsory charge of reckless endangerment is in order if you go 40k's over the speed limit?


I always thought that if you are caught doing more than 50kms over the speed limit that you do get charged with reckless/careless!?!?!?!
And with the new laws they are bringing in, that will change to 50% over the speed limit. (ie. 75 in a 50km zone, 120 in a 80km zone, 150 in a 100km zone etc etc)
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Postby xsspeed » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:19 pm

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stalker wrote:a few times we have called the parents to make sure they know what sort of car there 18yo kid is buying...and 9 times out of 10 they dont. Needless to say, they didnt buy that car
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and its probably those 1/10 parents that need to harden the f*ck up with their kids

unless of course they are the car enthusiasts as oppossed to the boy racer types.


btw i reckon we need some other title thats a bit cooler than car enthusist to distinguish ourselves from boy racers. problem is anything 'cool' will probably be adopted by a new crowd of f*cktards
I would like to see a 18 year old car enthusiast that isnt a "boy racer"... its all about revving your engine and attracting females that that age...


blatant stereotyping but unfortunately for the genuine crowd they have been let down by d1ckheads havent they.

perhaps we need to follow suit with australia and do something like p-plates and limit cc's and aspiration type.
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Postby IH8TEC » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:33 pm

if a 1200cc 1986 honda city can do 160kmh, what are you gonna limit them to?
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Postby skoty » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:51 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:(This only applies if the car is not stolen etc)


Most people that drive irratically like this would be in stolen cars though that don't giving a flying shit
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Postby solitaire » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:03 pm

xsspeed wrote:blatant stereotyping but unfortunately for the genuine crowd they have been let down by d1ckheads havent they.
It is stereotyping definitely. But stereo types are usually established because a large number of a particular type of person are observed doing the same thing - so all stereo types have an element of truth to them at the least. :wink:
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Postby AE86less » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:33 pm

solitaire wrote:
xsspeed wrote:
stalker wrote:a few times we have called the parents to make sure they know what sort of car there 18yo kid is buying...and 9 times out of 10 they dont. Needless to say, they didnt buy that car
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and its probably those 1/10 parents that need to harden the f*ck up with their kids

unless of course they are the car enthusiasts as oppossed to the boy racer types.


btw i reckon we need some other title thats a bit cooler than car enthusist to distinguish ourselves from boy racers. problem is anything 'cool' will probably be adopted by a new crowd of f*cktards
I would like to see a 18 year old car enthusiast that isnt a "boy racer"... its all about revving your engine and attracting females that that age...


I can say 100% honestly that I have never been in a street race or anything of the type. As for girls, they say my car is cute :?


On the other hand: My mate just bought a BZG (Auto :lol: ) and asked instantly assumed that because he had a 'fast' car he should be street racing. I was like wtf :!: :?:
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Postby IH8TEC » Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:36 pm

AE86less wrote:As for girls, they say my car is cute :?


aww :lol:
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Postby xsspeed » Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:58 pm

mind you brendan hartley is 18 and i would say hes an enthusiast

edit: just saw his burnout on the news guess he may be a boy racer, just one thats taken it off the streets
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Postby 2jayzgte » Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:53 pm

Ohh well i should'nt really chime in here but the quickest I've been locked on a police laser gun is 272 kph at the St.Francis line just outside of Carterton but in saying this it was a closed road speed event though.Oh well they give kids these days the cars to do these speeds so I guess the rest of us just have to live with it.
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:04 am

There's just been a 13yr old in Dunedin caught doing over 100 in a 50 zone in a stolen car. The area is quite popular with little kids playing on the side of the street etc. & all this kid gets is a referral to youth aid and a family group conference 8O

I think they're needs to be some sort of 3 strike law come into force. It can't be used for stupid things like 61 in a 50k zone, or failing to indicate. But for serious things like doing burnouts, street racing, 20k over the speed limit, drink driving etc. On the 3rd strike its automatic loss of licence for 5 years on top of any other loss of licence given for offences committed, forfeiture of vehicle you were caught in (unless stolen), and 18 months jail with no possibility of parole or community based sentences.
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Postby o0hoe rolla0o » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:24 am

I just had my car broken into last night some dooshbag #$*@wit tried to steal it. I rung up the cop and all they had to say was "so it was only broken into...." yea but that wasn't the intent now was it! They wont do anything about it wont even come and try lift some prints off it … what the hell cops are more worried about getting their Quota they don’t care about real police work. This just brings up what you where talking about before ….. don’t give them more power it will just prevent them further from doing any real police work… maybe we should split the police up again…. Traffic cops and regular ones?? Anyway good news is the $%## @$#@$^! Didn’t get away with it….


As for the car enthusiasts or boy racer thing, im 19 i own 2 cars no one can tell me that im trying to pick up girls in my 1990 Fxgt although my beloved dayly driver sports a peppy little 20v and some 17's its 2 tone faded 50% removed clear cote paintjob is anything but attractive to the O-so sweet 14yr old car hoe ......well yea anyway my point is simple i didnt build the car to look good i built it because i love to drive and i love to work on cars... no on could convince me otherwise, im not a boy racer....
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Postby Trls250s » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:37 am

o0hoe rolla0o wrote:I just had my car broken into last night some dooshbag #$*@wit tried to steal it. I rung up the cop and all they had to say was "so it was only broken into...." yea but that wasn't the intent now was it! They wont do anything about it wont even come and try lift some prints off it … what the hell cops are more worried about getting their Quota they don’t care about real police work. This just brings up what you where talking about before ….. don’t give them more power it will just prevent them further from doing any real police work… maybe we should split the police up again…. Traffic cops and regular ones?? Anyway good news is the $%## @$#@$^! Didn’t get away with it….


Dont really know if thats fair man, my mates little brother is a cop for mangere and he says they are horribly understaffed. They cant even send police to domestic violence cases cause they are to busy trying to follow up stabbings, and gang violence.

My car was stolen and recovered with all the windows smashed out and a bit ghetto'ed, and they couldnt really do anything about it. I was pissed at the time but hearing shit from the other side of the fence i can understand why they couldnt do it.

Most cases cops dont really give a rats how you drive so long as you dont drive like a tard, and your car doesnt look like you dragged it out of the bottom of the ocean. Case in point person doing 178kmh in a domestic area. Nothing wrong with blowing off a bit of steam, but theres a time, place and a limit to how much steam you do blow off.
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Postby o0hoe rolla0o » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:55 am

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o0hoe rolla0o wrote:I just had my car broken into last night some dooshbag #$*@wit tried to steal it. I rung up the cop and all they had to say was "so it was only broken into...." yea but that wasn't the intent now was it! They wont do anything about it wont even come and try lift some prints off it … what the hell cops are more worried about getting their Quota they don’t care about real police work. This just brings up what you where talking about before ….. don’t give them more power it will just prevent them further from doing any real police work… maybe we should split the police up again…. Traffic cops and regular ones?? Anyway good news is the $%## @$#@$^! Didn’t get away with it….


Dont really know if thats fair man, my mates little brother is a cop for mangere and he says they are horribly understaffed. They cant even send police to domestic violence cases cause they are to busy trying to follow up stabbings, and gang violence.

My car was stolen and recovered with all the windows smashed out and a bit ghetto'ed, and they couldnt really do anything about it. I was pissed at the time but hearing sh*t from the other side of the fence i can understand why they couldnt do it.

Most cases cops dont really give a rats how you drive so long as you dont drive like a tard, and your car doesnt look like you dragged it out of the bottom of the ocean. Case in point person doing 178kmh in a domestic area. Nothing wrong with blowing off a bit of steam, but theres a time, place and a limit to how much steam you do blow off.




I agree fully with the claim that anyone who dose this is a halfwit !@$# tard and that he should be delt to stongly. But the fact thati get pulled over by cops at 9pm cuz my car is a little load and i have "raceing wheels" and wastes 30mins of my time and 30mins of his time just for a "random" check. when this idiot could be doing something constuctive realy gets to me.
I have nothing against cops my mates mum is a cop and she's great, One of my friends is on the waiting list enrol as a cop. i just dont agree with how the system is working...
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Postby Norty » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:10 am

Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.

Or at least kill the offenders because as Jeff the Maori says, "its proven that dead people don't reoffend" :P J/K well only 30% kidding

personally this is what i think.

While you have cars and allow kids to drive them, some will do stupid stuff, some will die, some will kill others, its just cause they are not mature enough, hell i think we all did stupid stuff yeah.

You can put in over a million laws, take cars, crush cars, some people will still drive stupid and die and kill others.

Really laws have only a short term effect, before people stop caring.

Look at all the Drink driving laws, people still are drinking and driving

Education is key but wont fix everything.

Until Robots drive for us, people will speed, drive wasted on booze or drugs, people will do stupid stuff, or just plain human error and some will die.
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Postby solitaire » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:20 am

Norty wrote:Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.
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Postby o0hoe rolla0o » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:21 am

Norty wrote:Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.

Or at least kill the offenders because as Jeff the Maori says, "its proven that dead people don't reoffend" :P J/K well only 30% kidding

personally this is what i think.

While you have cars and allow kids to drive them, some will do stupid stuff, some will die, some will kill others, its just cause they are not mature enough, hell i think we all did stupid stuff yeah.

You can put in over a million laws, take cars, crush cars, some people will still drive stupid and die and kill others.

Really laws have only a short term effect, before people stop caring.

Look at all the Drink driving laws, people still are drinking and driving

Education is key but wont fix everything.

Until Robots drive for us, people will speed, drive wasted on booze or drugs, people will do stupid stuff, or just plain human error and some will die.




well said raising the driveing age may not fix anything still.... if they are going to steal cars at 13 they are going to drive them whenever they want too......
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Postby cat007 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:26 am

Trls250s wrote:Dont really know if thats fair man, my mates little brother is a cop for mangere and he says they are horribly understaffed. They cant even send police to domestic violence cases cause they are to busy trying to follow up stabbings, and gang violence.




Hi,

I understand what you are saying but really. It's not our problem. The police are there to do a job. They don't have enough staff, so? Cummon 50, sort it out.
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Postby o0hoe rolla0o » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:33 am

o0hoe rolla0o wrote:
Norty wrote:Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.

Or at least kill the offenders because as Jeff the Maori says, "its proven that dead people don't reoffend" :P J/K well only 30% kidding

personally this is what i think.

While you have cars and allow kids to drive them, some will do stupid stuff, some will die, some will kill others, its just cause they are not mature enough, hell i think we all did stupid stuff yeah.

You can put in over a million laws, take cars, crush cars, some people will still drive stupid and die and kill others.

Really laws have only a short term effect, before people stop caring.

Look at all the Drink driving laws, people still are drinking and driving

Education is key but wont fix everything.

Until Robots drive for us, people will speed, drive wasted on booze or drugs, people will do stupid stuff, or just plain human error and some will die.




well said raising the driveing age may not fix anything still.... if they are going to steal cars at 13 they are going to drive them whenever they want too......



Plus if anyone realy wanted im sure they could go to the maori goverment and get a drivers licence from them.....
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Postby holden_fan2005 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:46 am

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Norty wrote:Raise the Age you can Drive to 18 and get a full license at 20 it will help.
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Until this country has a decent public transport system that's not the greatest idea.

At the moment, I would be out of 2 jobs if that happened, out of an income. This could lead to me starting to do 'other things' (stealing cars, theft, drugs etc etc) to get a good income.

And saying that these people should take racing off the street is a rather silly thing to say too.

eg:

Why the hell would I go and PAY someone to go racing which I may only get 4 or 5 races/laps in that day, whip-d-do :roll: Its a hell of a lot easier to go on he street and go for a thrash, what does that cost?? $20 for fuel maybe, but thats about it. (thats a small example, not taking into account the danger factor etc etc)

Now dont get me wrong, I'm fully against speeders and reckless driving, but theres more behind it that just a bunch of fuktards street racing.

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Postby holden_fan2005 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:46 am

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