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by **gasman** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:11 am

i tried searching around but didnt find much info.

how powerful is the most powerful 4age engine in all three platforms (N/A, supercharged and turbo)

any details on parts used, the builder and pictures would also be useful.

by **RomanV** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:58 am

If 7AGTE counts, then here's a rundown of Bazdas 330KW ATW setup....

viewtopic.php?t=54194&highlight=7agte

Website · by **Bling** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:10 am

Sure, as long as its a 4age / 4agze or 4agte..... wait... no.

interested to see what people have achieved with the ABOVE engines tho

by **flygt4** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:04 am

isnt there a methanol 4agte somewhere that has like 600hp?

by **RedMist** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:25 am

Bob Norwoods 1500cc 20 valve would be the most powerful that I know of.

by **JustinSpiderholden** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:48 am

There's a guy in ozzy with a 4agte in a cortina think he was pushing close to 280kw at last check still with factory 1600cc

by **Stu-** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:50 am

Yup, apparently he's having diff issues so hasn't had it at full power yet. Pretty crazy setup.

by **narlystarly** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:50 am

What about that drag 86/85 i think it was in the states? 16v 4agte pretty sure was over 500whp

by **~SlideWays~** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:10 am

My gf's 20v is pretty awes

Gasman are you looking at making mega power or something?

by **gasman** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:22 am

~SlideWays~ wrote:My gf's 20v is pretty awes

Gasman are you looking at making mega power or something?

im just wondering what are the limits of the 4age engine and how much power i need to get to claim the absolute title. Managed to get 260kw on 20psi but that was with 100% injector duty cycle.

by **levinguy** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:48 am

what about the backyarder corolla in australia? does 9 seconds fwd and isnt it stil 1600? methonal as well?

by **tenyearguarantee** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:50 am

20psi? youse crazy

by **RomanV** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:05 am

BZG|Bling wrote:Sure, as long as its a 4age / 4agze or 4agte..... wait... no.

interested to see what people have achieved with the ABOVE engines tho

Regardless of whether it's had a stroker kit or not, the list still illustrates the costs/requirements/etc of a high hp *AGTE buildup, in more detail than any other build list I've seen.

You could build a 4AGTE with the same ingredients, you just wouldnt make as much power I guess...

by **MR2SIK** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:32 am

wasnt there a sw20 going for a speed run at some salt flats in the states running a 4agte?

Edit, here it is, Bob Norwoods
http://www.bobnorwood.com/The%20Fastest%20Little%20Sports%20Car%20in%20Utah.htm

by **Lith** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:30 pm

levinguy wrote:what about the backyarder corolla in australia? does 9 seconds fwd and isnt it stil 1600? methonal as well?

Yeah I suspect thats the 600hp one mentioned aboved. Pretty cool though

I think that is one of the most powerful 4AGEs I know of.

by **MR2SIK** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:32 pm

What was the Timid DX pushing out?

by **barryogen** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:49 pm

MR2SIK wrote:wasnt there a sw20 going for a speed run at some salt flats in the states running a 4agte?

crap... thats impressive.
Didn't realise that the aero on the SW20 was so good.

by **~SlideWays~** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:49 pm

gasman wrote:
~SlideWays~ wrote:My gf's 20v is pretty awes

Gasman are you looking at making mega power or something?

im just wondering what are the limits of the 4age engine and how much power i need to get to claim the absolute title. Managed to get 260kw on 20psi but that was with 100% injector duty cycle.

Thats pretty damn good, is that still on speedtechs dyno or somewhere else?

That means I need to make 48kw more on another 3psi....hmmm me thinks not :lol:

by **IH8TEC** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:12 pm

tenyearguarantee wrote:20psi? youse crazy

20psi is nothing, i'm running 25psi and maybe a little more next week who knows,

as for the high hp ones, turbo wise most guys can get away with 30psi (one in aussie and one in states) on stock blocks. one in aussie runs same bottom end setup as me.

powerwise, the one in the states runs over 500rwhp, BUT, he has split the cyl walls on 3 blocks so far i beleive. which is the main problem when getting that high.

backyarder isn't quite that much power, or wasn't last time i checked, but he can run about 40psi boost with the methonol, so who knows,

what injectors you running gasman? and what base fuel pressure? if the block is build well, (not neccessarily forged pistons) you should have no trouble cranking it up to 25psi.

by **Lloyd** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:23 pm

RomanV wrote:Regardless of whether it's had a stroker kit or not, the list still illustrates the costs/requirements/etc of a high hp *AGTE buildup, in more detail than any other build list I've seen.

You could build a 4AGTE with the same ingredients, you just wouldnt make as much power I guess...

The whole question was what power can you get from a 4A, so what you get out of a 7A is completely irrelevant to what he is asking. Sure you can chuck the same stuff at a 4A but the power isn't going to be completely different so doesn't answer the question in any way

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