torque settings for 4age.4agze for pressure plate

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torque settings for 4age.4agze for pressure plate

Postby ke_25 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:33 am

hey,

as title says does any one have the info hand for the torue settings for pressure plate to flyheel?

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Postby gasman » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:59 am

12Nm i think it was
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Postby bluemaumau » Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:02 pm

autoclutch told me "no more than 35lb"
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Postby 1hypo3 » Sat Apr 26, 2008 9:41 pm

19Nm
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Postby d1 mule » Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:47 am

do it tight and itll be sweet. never had a problem doin it that way lol
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Postby thegreatestben » Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:29 pm

1hypo3 wrote:19Nm


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Postby method » Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:35 pm

Wouldn't it depend on the type of pressure plate (clutch cover) too??
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Postby 1hypo3 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:56 pm

method wrote:Wouldn't it depend on the type of pressure plate (clutch cover) too??


no it depends on the size and grade of the bolt used.
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Postby method » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:53 pm

Duh obviously, but you totally missed my point. What i was getting at is you would want different torque for a 1,000lb and a 3,500lb pressure plate wouldn't you?
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Postby 1hypo3 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:21 pm

method wrote:Duh obviously, but you totally missed my point. What i was getting at is you would want different torque for a 1,000lb and a 3,500lb pressure plate wouldn't you?


huh? :? are you talking bolt torque or engine torque? im confused!
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Postby 1hypo3 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:34 pm

Are you talking about if there is more force on the bolts due to being a heavier pressure plate. if you are then, if it was an issue they would recommend to increase the hole size on the pressure plate for the bolt and recommend you taping a bigger thread in the flywheel, so no it does not matter.
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Postby bluemaumau » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:39 pm

well a standard gze pressure plate is 1350lbs i think and mine is 1870lbs i think.

i was told no more than 35lb, so maybe it does relate to the clamping force of your pressure plate
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Postby method » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:53 pm

1hypo3 wrote:
method wrote:Duh obviously, but you totally missed my point. What i was getting at is you would want different torque for a 1,000lb and a 3,500lb pressure plate wouldn't you?


huh? :? are you talking bolt torque or engine torque? im confused!


Torque on the bolt!
i.e, more than 19nm.

Yeah was meaning due to more force from the heavier pressure plate.

A 3,500lb pressure plate has nearly 3 times the clamping pressure of a standard pressure plate and would also put 3 times the tensile force on the bolts.
So i figured bolt torque and/or grade would depend on pressure plate. 19nm for a standard plate as in the manual but more for a heavier one.

And as you said you'd need larger bolts or a bolt made from a higher grade.

Understand what im saying??
I know nothing, im just bringing up a point that crossed my mind when i thought of it.
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Postby 1hypo3 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:33 pm

method wrote:
1hypo3 wrote:
method wrote:Duh obviously, but you totally missed my point. What i was getting at is you would want different torque for a 1,000lb and a 3,500lb pressure plate wouldn't you?


huh? :? are you talking bolt torque or engine torque? im confused!


Torque on the bolt!
i.e, more than 19nm.

Yeah was meaning due to more force from the heavier pressure plate.

A 3,500lb pressure plate has nearly 3 times the clamping pressure of a standard pressure plate and would also put 3 times the tensile force on the bolts.
So i figured bolt torque and/or grade would depend on pressure plate. 19nm for a standard plate as in the manual but more for a heavier one.

And as you said you'd need larger bolts or a bolt made from a higher grade.

Understand what im saying??
I know nothing, im just bringing up a point that crossed my mind when i thought of it.


Please do not get offended,
i do understand now what your point is, and i do apologise for not understanding you.
It is a very good point, probably not often thought of.
I personally havnt heard of anyone ever having a problem but im not saying its never happened.
Personally if i had a heavy pressure plate i would upgrade the bolts to a higher tensile strength bolt and do the torque setting according to that grade and size bolt just to be safe.
So maybe you do need to increase torque but only if you replace them with a tensile strength bolt, but you knew that anyway so you kinda answered your question yourself.
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Postby Crucible » Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:03 pm

lol torquing up a clutch,

just tighten the c#@! with a ratchit, never torqued a clutch in my life and never had a come back... ever!
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