Doing a 4age AE101, auto to manual conversion

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

I have almost finished my auto to manual conversion, 2nd one i have done.

I have completed.

manual gearbox fitted.
clutch lines and pedels fitted.
M/T ecu fitted - I have rewired the auto loom plugs to suit the M/T ecu, using the pin diagrams from (http://www.club4ag.com/technical_main.htm)

now ready to start the car.

But i have all ACC power, then I turn the key to ON position and no dash lights come on, the starter will not crank.

any ideas??

Thanks for your help.
Ben.

[20v_rollaboy]

What did you do with the plug that went to the auto box?

Do you know that you didnt have to change the ecu??

[Mr Revhead]

sounds like you didnt quite sort the wiring right....

go back through it all!

or, but it all back they way you found it!

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

no i didn't know i didn't need to change the ecu,

the 2 plugs from the auto box are still attached to the loom, is there a way I can keep the auto ecu.

I will go through and check the wiring again today.

[pc]

When I did this conversion on an AE82 I kept the Auto ECU and made up one of these.

The plugs on the left have been cut off the old auto box and plug straight into the existing loom.
The plug on the right was a spare on the loom that I think went to the fluid level indicator on the auto box, either way it wasn't needed so I used it for the reverse lights switch.
I'm assuming an AE101 will be similar.

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

thanks for those photos pc.

I just finished checking the wiring again, worked out good.

I also checked the pins in the ecu, to the diagrams online.

but still no luck ,

could this mean the ecu is stuffed. anyone else got any ideas?

Thanks again.
Ben.

[KwS]

stupid question, and might be moot with that mt ecu.... but did you short the inhibitor to always be in neutral?

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

no i havn't shorted the inhibitor to allways be in neutral

the main problem i have is no ON power with the key, I have the ACC power

[RS13]

no i havn't shorted the inhibitor to allways be in neutral

the main problem i have is no ON power with the key, I have the ACC power

Is it like trying to start an auto car in 'Drive'? Cars have inhibitor circuits that prevent the ignition starting when the auto shifter isn't in Park or Neutral. When you convert a car to manual, you need to loop (or "short") the inhibitor wires together so that the car thinks that its' in Park or Neutral, and allows power to the ignition. A common mistake, but easily fixed.

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

Yeah it is like trying to start it in drive, but having no dash lights or the engine check light come on. Feels a bit odd to me.

Where would I find these wires for the inhibitor switch any ideas?

Cheers
Ben.

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

Should I wire these 2 wires here together?

or am I on the wrong track?

[img][img]http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1294/ae1014age20vecubcv3.th.jpg[/img][/img]

[RS13]

Yeah it is like trying to start it in drive, but having no dash lights or the engine check light come on. Feels a bit odd to me.

Where would I find these wires for the inhibitor switch any ideas?

Cheers
Ben.

Lol sorry dude, I've never converted an AE101, only Nissans.. not much help, I'm sure someone else can assist you.

[Calvin]

Should I wire these 2 wires here together?

or am I on the wrong track?

[img][img]http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1294/ae1014age20vecubcv3.th.jpg[/img][/img]

Wrong

Here



Circled is a plug on the loom. it plugs into the auto box and is attached to a switch. the switch is closed when in park and open when out of park.
when the loom plug is unplugged it is a open circut therefore the car thinks it is gear and wont start. cut the plug out of the circut and you should be good to go...

[Mr Revhead]

i think you both posted the same thing!

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

awsome

I actually wired it up how i showed in the red circle

and car runs good

omg I feel like a idiot, i just never stared at them in boredem long enough to figure it out.

[Calvin]

i think you both posted the same thing!

lol yeh. now that i look at it

[pc]

Didn't my photo show that?

[4-AGE 4-LIFE]

yes your photo showed that, but it confused me

i just bypassed the switch at the ecu pins

[importcustoms]

sorry to bring up and oldish thread but im having issues with my inibitor and ive been left with a mess from the last owner of the car...

anywho random wires have been cut surrounding the plugs i need and none match the colours above...

there is evidence of a plug being cut off next to the starter signal terminal these three wires are brown with a yellow trace, blue with a yellow trace, purple with spotted red trace all of which are small wires...

next i have three white wires a black wire with an orange trace (white and black wires are thickish) and 2 black wires with a red trace, then there are 2 long black wires one with a brown speckled trace these are all around the reverse switch

after trying to locate plugs similar to those in the pics the only thing i found that slightly resembles them are ..
a yellowy transparent plug which has 2 thickish wires which are black and black with a white trace and a smaller red with a black trace ... this plug is located next to the cut three wire plug mentioned above..
and a white plug which has a light green wire, light green with a red trace and a red with a blue trace
there are a lot more left over plug but they just dont seem relevant to the above diagram

can anyone make sence of that and relate it to the diagram above that would be awesome... also the car is a ae82 NZ new sedan


thanx Riki

[pc]

got pix?