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by **deaf_rattle** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:25 pm

i am thinking about converting my MA61 head lights to HID

anything i need to be carefull about?

Also what kit should i look at getting? dont want to get something that is going to melt everything.

Cheers

by **Flunk** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:29 pm

i could very well be wrong, but i believe unless they are a factory supplied item, they are illegal...

High intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.

However, a complete halogen headlamp unit can be replaced with a complete HID headlamp unit provided that the replacement headlamp unit complies with approved standards. If in doubt, get advice from a vehicle lighting retailer you trust.

Tinting

It is illegal to apply any kind of tint film, tint paint or opaque sticker to any lamp which has a function other than decoration (eg non-cosmetic).

by **NZ_AE86** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:38 pm

Flunk wrote:High intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.

However, a complete halogen headlamp unit can be replaced with a complete HID headlamp unit provided that the replacement headlamp unit complies with approved standards. If in doubt, get advice from a vehicle lighting retailer you trust.

Where is that writeup from? I have been asked this by several customers in the last two weeks and the way I read the VIRM I would give them a WOF. But I have heard a lot of people say they are not legal. All I have to go on as a WOF inspector is the VIRM which most of the time means I decide if it should have a WOF as most of it is left up to inspectors opinion!

by **Flunk** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:44 pm

thats from the ltsa lighting handbook...

Website · by **Mr.Phreak** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:58 pm

http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicl ... right.html

by **Alex B** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:14 am

Has anyone seen complete 6x7 HID replacement units for sale?

by **Lloyd** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:15 am

NZ_AE86 wrote:
Flunk wrote:High intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.

However, a complete halogen headlamp unit can be replaced with a complete HID headlamp unit provided that the replacement headlamp unit complies with approved standards. If in doubt, get advice from a vehicle lighting retailer you trust.

Where is that writeup from? I have been asked this by several customers in the last two weeks and the way I read the VIRM I would give them a WOF. But I have heard a lot of people say they are not legal. All I have to go on as a WOF inspector is the VIRM which most of the time means I decide if it should have a WOF as most of it is left up to inspectors opinion!

Going by the VIRM though most HID swaps aren't legal anyway as the reflectors aren't right so you cant actually focus them. But if they can get a decent pattern from one then from an AVIC point of view you'd probably have to pass it

by **NZ_AE86** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:04 pm

HRT wrote:Going by the VIRM though most HID swaps aren't legal anyway as the reflectors aren't right so you cant actually focus them. But if they can get a decent pattern from one then from an AVIC point of view you'd probably have to pass it

Yeah, you are right. I have had a few through and never had trouble getting a good well focused pattern on the beam setter so as you say a pass it is!

If they have plastic lens then you may have a problem over time.

by **SUBARUCONVERT** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:33 pm

just had this problem at work, had a evo 5 in with a hid kit, i ended up issuing the wof. it worked fine and had a good pattern so i let it go. i dont think plastic lenses would be a problem, most new cars with factory hid have them

by **AE82 FXGT** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:04 pm

SUBARUCONVERT wrote:just had this problem at work, had a evo 5 in with a hid kit, i ended up issuing the wof. it worked fine and had a good pattern so i let it go. i dont think plastic lenses would be a problem, most new cars with factory hid have them

But factory HID plastic lenses would be designed to cope with the temperatures of HID's in mind.

by **jaypines** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:10 pm

HIDs operates cooler than halogen ones... so no problems with plastic lenses.

by **AE82 FXGT** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:16 pm

my bad, i thought it was the other way.

Why are the ballast systems illegal then? I thought it was because of the headlamp itself?

by **NZ_AE86** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:17 pm

AE82 FXGT wrote:
Why are the ballast systems illegal then? I thought it was because of the headlamp itself?

What makes you think the ballast systems are illegal?

by **Flunk** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:47 pm

NZ_AE86 wrote:
AE82 FXGT wrote:
Why are the ballast systems illegal then? I thought it was because of the headlamp itself?

What makes you think the ballast systems are illegal?

High intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.

by **Lloyd** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:59 pm

Because the headlight lens setup is different for an HID bulb

PICS UPDATED DAILY · by **method** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:38 am

I've fitted a hid kit into both my cars i used to have.

never had WOF problems. Makes a huge difference to driving at night on the open road too. Can see so much better.

by **Stu-** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:46 am

What temperature setups are everyone using?

by **Lloyd** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:27 pm

6k is about what you'd want. Anything more and the light output decreases and you just get more and more blue/violet coming through.

by **d1 mule** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:21 pm

method wrote:I've fitted a hid kit into both my cars i used to have.

never had WOF problems. Makes a huge difference to driving at night on the open road too. Can see so much better.

but ppl coming the other way are blinded.... i $&#$% hate the things cant see shit when ppl are driving towards you, IMO there dangerous

by **NZ_AE86** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:27 pm

Flunk wrote:
NZ_AE86 wrote:
AE82 FXGT wrote:
Why are the ballast systems illegal then? I thought it was because of the headlamp itself?

What makes you think the ballast systems are illegal?

High intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits

HID conversion kits (an HID bulb with a high voltage power unit or ‘ballast’ which fits into the original headlamp unit in place of the original bulb with no change to the headlamp lens, reflector or housing) are illegal on any vehicle being used on New Zealand roads.

Where is that from?

They are not illegal as far as I am concerned.

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