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Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:40 pm

Watching old british touring car races and seeing the old Volvo station wagon race cars kicking some serious arse before they got banned... apparently for not being able to see around or something :lol:
Whats the legalities of using a station wagon for hill climbs, track racing etc in NZ?
Could anyone else but Volvo do this :lol:
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Postby Leon » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:07 pm

Perfectly legal.

You can run any shape car you want, so long as the safety gear is up to spec.
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Postby strx7 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:07 pm

nothing stopping you from doing it in NZ
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Postby johndoe1025 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:15 pm

lol thats a mean pic...coilovers ftw
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Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:25 pm

Cause i'm thinking that once the starion goes and i'm in a better financial postion I want to buy a station wagon for convienience but still dead keen to do some track work, and perhaps some racing later on...
Was thinking a BZ Carib, Libero GT of something of the likes....
I would dearly love one of those Volvo's but they tend to be pricey and scarce in manual....
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Postby johndoe1025 » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:27 pm

libero GTs are slow stock standard, my BZG keeps up with them. caribs are cooool. what bout a caldina?
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Re: Station Wagon race cars?

Postby fivebob » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:29 pm

FST4RD wrote:before they got banned... apparently for not being able to see around or something :lol:

They were never banned, but a rule change for 1995 was worded in such a way that they couldn't run a rear spoiler. They would have been at a serious disadvantage, so Volvo opted to run the saloon version instead.
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Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:36 pm

johndoe1025 wrote:libero GTs are slow stock standard, my BZG keeps up with them. caribs are cooool. what bout a caldina?


I like the BZ's my flatmate has one and it's cool, heaps of aftermarket parts etc for them, just dodgy 6 speed boxes :P
GT libero's heaps of bolt in parts and even drop and evo motor in for fun...
Maybe a caldina GT, didn't they come with the beams motor? although they're a bit bigger and heavier then the libero and carib....

I like the carib and libero shape the best out of the station wagons...
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Re: Station Wagon race cars?

Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:37 pm

fivebob wrote:
FST4RD wrote:before they got banned... apparently for not being able to see around or something :lol:

They were never banned, but a rule change for 1995 was worded in such a way that they couldn't run a rear spoiler. They would have been at a serious disadvantage, so Volvo opted to run the saloon version instead.


Oh is that what happened! I see.... pity about that really cause the Station Wagons were the best looking BTC car :D
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Postby touge rolla » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:57 pm

An ST246 Caldina would make a nice looking race car.
Possibly a bit pricey though
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Postby Scotty » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:37 pm

rs4 or rb26det stagea could be a goer
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Postby FST4RD » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:42 pm

Scotty wrote:rs4 or rb26det stagea could be a goer


haha if I had the money....
Carib and libero's are much cheaper, smaller and parts are readily available for them... especially since it would be a daily driver/track car.
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Postby GTTpower » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:44 pm

touge rolla wrote:An ST246 Caldina would make a nice looking race car.
Possibly a bit pricey though


ST246 would look cool.

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Re: Station Wagon race cars?

Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:07 pm

fivebob wrote:
FST4RD wrote:before they got banned... apparently for not being able to see around or something :lol:

They were never banned, but a rule change for 1995 was worded in such a way that they couldn't run a rear spoiler. They would have been at a serious disadvantage, so Volvo opted to run the saloon version instead.


also had a new model to promote

the reason they ran the wagons is they knew they wouldnt be at the front of the grid to start with
so to maximize publicity (coz thats the ONLY reason car makers race) they decided on the wagons.

used to be an 808 (or rx3) wagon racing in the SI based in chch i think
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Re: Station Wagon race cars?

Postby fivebob » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:24 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:also had a new model to promote

Nah, the S40 didn't debut until the following year ;)

When spoilers were allowed on the saloons the 850 saloon was a better choice, before the spoilers the 850 estate had more downforce.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:26 pm

did they race a saloon between the wagon and s40?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:30 pm

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Postby Adamal » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:23 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:yes they did!


Shhh.... If Fivebob is ever proven wrong, the universe implodes!

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Postby postfach » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:30 pm

What? The way I read Fivebobs post, they raced the 850 estates until the spoiler rule, then the 850 saloon, and then the S40
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Postby fivebob » Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:35 pm

postfach wrote:What? The way I read Fivebobs post, they raced the 850 estates until the spoiler rule, then the 850 saloon, and then the S40

Congratulations you pass comprehension 101, I fear Adamal will have to resit the exam, unless I fail at comprehending his post ;)

Back on topic. Those were the best years of the BTCC, before Audi ruined it. Rickard Rydell was just awsome at punting those estates around, still have most of the videos of that season and even watch them occasionally.
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