Auckland city brought to a standstill

[Adamal]

Now the reason for my offtopic story is that I think we need such vehicles here to stop such chases from getting out of hand....

My thoughts exactly.
Its not that the cops needed to lay off, its that the cops needed to be harder on the guy.

Also, I haven't heard of any mention of a shotgun, they were saying on the news that he had a sawn off .22 rifle.

[snwtoy]

Still can't believe they turned this into a killing after a handbag was stolen. NZ police need to learn when to give up.

oh hello hippie

Sorry if I value human life over a stolen handbag.

Still can't believe they turned this into a killing after a handbag was stolen. NZ police need to learn when to give up.

Or make the decision to shoot to kill to protect public safety. There would be fewer runners if there was a chance they would blow your brains out.

Hmm... I think that would lead to more people starting to shoot straight away rather than running.

[Mr Revhead]

bs

you make it sound like the cops are at fault
as if they have set out to kill

learn to give up... wtf!?

i hope i never live in a country where the police force "learn to give up"

[snwtoy]

bs

you make it sound like the cops are at fault
as if they have set out to kill

learn to give up... wtf!?

i hope i never live in a country where the police force "learn to give up"

No, putting public safety at risk for the sake of a handbag is bs. 20 police cars is excessive. I hope someone fries for this.

[Mr Revhead]

you have your facts wrong

The pursuit began in Glen Eden at about 1.08pm after the driver of a car pointed a gun at an officer who attempted to stop him.

[Mr Revhead]

your making it sound as if this guy "just" stole a hand bag

not fired shots through several suburbs
didnt point weapons at police
didnt try and hijack cars with weapons



poor poor innocent thief

[snwtoy]

you have your facts wrong

The pursuit began in Glen Eden at about 1.08pm after the driver of a car pointed a gun at an officer who attempted to stop him.

I don't think anyone knows the 'facts' beyond what the sensationalist media has conveyed.

It is however, pretty clear that someone with a gun was persued at high speed through suburbia. It was always going to end in tradgedy.

[Adamal]

The Police have 'given up' for too long, which is why crime has become such an increasing issue!

Of course, I can't really blame the Police officers themselves, as they're just following protocol thats been set out for them.

Personally, I think todays events are a good sign, apart from the innocent being killed. It shows that the Police are no longer going to tollerate this kind of bullshit and are actually going to pull out the stops to protect the society we live in from people who think they can get away with that sort of bollocks!

Also, it became more than a stolen handbag issue when the crim pulled a gun on a pursuing officer.

[Adamal]

Also, it was revealed that the crim pulled a gun on the officer at the press conference, which was broadcast on TV.

[snwtoy]

I don't have the answers to what should have been done, but if the guy wasn't persued, it's highly unlikely anyone would have been hurt.

[snwtoy]

Also, it was revealed that the crim pulled a gun on the officer at the press conference, which was broadcast on TV.

Press conference I saw at 6pm said this was only at the end of the 'chase' once the skyline was stopped.

[Mr Revhead]

you cant be serious

so, the cops should just let ppl go when they start to run?


no point even arguing with that

[Adamal]

But it also sends a message that he can get away with it.

What happened today sends the message that you can't get away with it, which will make people think twice in the future before they try something like that. It leads to a decrease in crime.

Just like when your mum spanked you as a kid for doing something naughty. Made you think twice about doing it again.

[snwtoy]

you cant be serious

so, the cops should just let ppl go when they start to run?


no point even arguing with that

I said I don't have the answers. I did not suggest they should just let them go, all I said was that it is unlikely someone would have been hurt, much less killed if they had not entered into a crazy chase.

[Mr Revhead]

a guy running around with two guns and unlikely someone would get hurt.....

sorry mate, this is the real world
its not all pink fluffy things and flowers.
there are bad ppl out there.
they cause shit like this, not the police

[Dutton]

all I said was that it is unlikely someone would have been hurt, much less killed if they had not entered into a crazy chase.

Yeah I'm pretty much with Mr Revhead here man. Ok, so on the most basic level perhaps someone wouldn't have been hurt/killed at that place and time. But I for one expect the sort of person to go out and commit crime while carrying a loaded gun to use it eventually.

I'm all for police chasing people. Especially when there's danger to the public during the chase. I sometimes feel from what I see in the news that we're not actually aggressive enough in these chases. (What's that thing on that american cop show? the pit or something? Never seen or heard of NZ police using this sort of tactic even if they do - it's all spike strips, road blocks or the chasee crashing.) I wouldn't think that hanging further back would make someone slow down or drive taking less risks. They still want to get away completely.

Complicated issue for sure, but if I'm hit and killed as an innocent bystander whether by the cops or by the crims, I'm blaming the runner. I'd so totally haunt his arse too.

[MasCam]

SNWTOY: Arrgh someone home invaded my house shot me, raped my wife and cat and took off in my car

POLICE:oh yeah we know who that guy is but everyytime we try to get him he drives really fast and waves a gun around so we just let him go. He started out just stealing handbags but has progressed cos we can't stop him due to guidelines set down buy liberal hippies who value "Human life" over the rights of the entire community.

SNWTOY:

[scotty_ish]

SNWTOY: Arrgh someone home invaded my house shot me, raped my wife and cat and took off in my car

POLICE:oh yeah we know who that guy is but everyytime we try to get him he drives really fast and waves a gun around so we just let him go. He started out just stealing handbags but has progressed cos we can't stop him due to guidelines set down buy liberal hippies who value "Human life" over the rights of the entire community.

SNWTOY:

[mr30%jr]

im going half ass back snwtoy up and say... yes human life is valuable. but shit happens but for $&#$% sake this shits gota stop people waving guns and shooting at people this isnt $&#$% GTA

what cops need is 1uz hiluxs with bars and cannons lol guy starts a chase guy gets shot with cannon and chase ends

[MrOizo]

SNWTOY: Arrgh someone home invaded my house shot me, raped my wife and cat and took off in my car

POLICE:oh yeah we know who that guy is but everyytime we try to get him he drives really fast and waves a gun around so we just let him go. He started out just stealing handbags but has progressed cos we can't stop him due to guidelines set down buy liberal hippies who value "Human life" over the rights of the entire community.

SNWTOY:

Yeah... if they know they can get away with it... they will be more likely to do the crime