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Postby mr30%jr » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:08 pm

Hi guys.

purchased an EP71, have plenty of blutops in the shed and maybe even an FF c52.

was wonndering how hard it is to slap it in, is there anything major needed to be done. can you leave all 3 gearbox mounts and just mod the cambelt one.

wirings fuel and plumbing not an issue only things like driveshafts and mounts
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:24 pm

I dont think its that easy actually. From what i remember the ep82 needed the right hand chassis in the engine bay modified to get the 4age to fit. So i dont think the ep71 will be much different. I could be wrong though. Stu has a 4agte one on here......but im sure there are a handful of people on here with first hand experience.
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Postby soopachargen » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:59 pm

this guy has done the conversion and has pics etc http://www.twincam.info/index.php?showtopic=38032
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Postby mr30%jr » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:00 pm

is that shit legal in nz.

ive heard some dont need to cut, some do, wondering how close the c52 gets on the other side. if i can shunt the hole lot over a bit

also wondering what other fun engine swaps could be done. would be keen on a 5afe with bluetop head
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Postby soopachargen » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:06 pm

a guy up here has a 4agte and e58 in an ep82 with the rails notched, they have just been reinforced.
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Postby mr30%jr » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:31 pm

also wondering if anyone has any pics of a 2EE and are they any good
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Postby xsspeed » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:54 pm

there are two ep7X starlets in the project section atm. One has a 4efte and the other a 5efhe turbo. Could be a good place to start looking.
I'm not sure about starlets but in my ee80 corolla I'm 99% sure I just need to remount the cambelt side & use the ae82 subframe. Not sure how you would get the subframe to work on the starlet though.

If it was me I would def be looking at a e series engine.

Have even thought about changing tact with my corolla as well, before its too late.
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Postby mr30%jr » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:09 am

im not sure why you would want to start with a ee80 when you can get ae82s for so much cheapers with better rear etc and fuel pump

i do know if of the 2 other starlet projects. there not quite down the ally i want to go. maybe 4efte but they are wanting about a grand for one of those.
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Postby xsspeed » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:33 am

only because I have an ee80 and a crashed ae82 fxgt already. Easy to swap over tank, suspension, brakes etc. Only need to change the one mount
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Postby 79rolla » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:57 am

mesure up your new engine and box, then mesure up the engine bay.. thats the best way to see if it will fit, coul you resess the geairbox under the chassy rail a bit maby?? this will mean needing to fabricate new mounting points for all mounts tho.
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Postby Stu- » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:38 pm

Haha yep measure it first - can be done thou!
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Postby mr30%jr » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:02 pm

ive found a dereg startlet si with 2EE figured id purchase it for the wing, lip efi tank, efi wiring, tacho etc. motors all good so id swap it all over till i figure out where i wanna go from there

i mainly just wanted efi
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Postby xsspeed » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:08 pm

Good score, what price?
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Postby 1e-pwr » Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:31 pm

Hot 4A in an EP70 would be heaps of fun, before I did the 5efte conversion I had an NA 5EFE in there and the thing got along really well, so 4A would make it fly. I think Ive seen some vids of one or two on youtube actually... if Stus shoehorned in a pretty tricky turbed one no doubt the NA version will be similar/easier, drivers side mount is the one that needs fab IIRC. Another option (although obviously you dont have 'plenty' of them in your shed) would be an NA 5efhe that will bolt straight in, theyre good for 110hp factory and would be interesting if you slapped some quads on the side. That motor would be torquier than the 4a motor and because the ep70 is the lightest of the starlets Id say youd be out pacing factory GT starlets with that setup...
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