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by **rx7guy** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:06 pm

Hey there,

I picked up a complete blacktop recently and it has eaten number three big end. Im looking to keep it basically standard and put in in an ae85 which will see trackdays etc.

From what I have read all 42mm cranks are the same, including the gze. Is it better to resize the journal, or just replace the crank with any 42mm? With this I am looking to use silvertop rods, arp rod bolts from fortyone.co.nz (cheap) and the blacktop pistons. I will probably give the ports a tidy up.

Does this sound like a suitable setup?

Can anyone recommend bearings/rings/gaskets to use? Is it worth going to trd race bearings etc? Or just go to supercheap auto? Also is it worth getting everything balanced?

Cheers, Aidan

by **matt dunn** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:31 pm

Yes cranks are the same, and IMO replace it rather than re-size it.
and go genuine for the parts, or ACL race bearings, and Toyota rings.

Sounds like a suitable setup to me with the ST rods.

by **TRD_ZERO** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:04 am

Go to super cheap and get acl race series bearings they are atleast $100 cheaper than repco

by **matt dunn** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 1:15 am

TRD_ZERO wrote:Go to super cheap and get acl race series bearings they are atleast $100 cheaper than repco

BNT do them too.

by **rollaholic** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:36 am

TRD_ZERO wrote:Go to super cheap and get acl race series bearings they are atleast $100 cheaper than repco

since repco sell them for around $40 thats a pretty sweet deal

by **rx7guy** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:06 am

Haha mean deal I reckon.

Thanks for your input guys. What about balancing though, is it normally done on a 4age?

by **matt dunn** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:48 am

rx7guy wrote:Haha mean deal I reckon.

Thanks for your input guys. What about balancing though, is it normally done on a 4age?

From what I have been told, dont balance used cranks,
so from my point of view no.

by **ROBODISCO_20v** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:10 pm

matt dunn wrote:and go genuine for the parts, or ACL race bearings, and Toyota rings.

+1

Don't use the ACL rings what ever you do. Genuine only!! I made this mistake & regretted it. Smokey, smokey is all I can say (probably could have done with over sized pistons & rings but that's someone else's problem now)

by **TRD_ZERO** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:44 pm

rollaholic wrote:
TRD_ZERO wrote:Go to super cheap and get acl race series bearings they are atleast $100 cheaper than repco

since repco sell them for around $40 thats a pretty sweet deal

For mains, bigends and thrust bearings was over $200

Dunno what bearing set ur getting for $40

by **AceSniper** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:24 pm

supercheap are around 60odd big ends and 80odd for mains atm, repco.. even staff price doesnt beat that.

Iv use acl rings on a mates blacktop and it doesn't use oil or smoke... made him get the block honed by a shop so they bed in right

by **escortman** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:00 pm

AceSniper wrote:supercheap are around 60odd big ends and 80odd for mains atm, repco.. even staff price doesnt beat that.

Iv use acl rings on a mates blacktop and it doesn't use oil or smoke... made him get the block honed by a shop so they bed in right

seen that appco is same as repco thats suprising because i payed 50 and 60 for bigs and mains

by **AceSniper** » Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:31 pm

thats for acl race
back when I did my engine supercheap 40$big ends 60$ mains (acl race)

by **escortman** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:34 am

yeh thats for race series about 2years ago but when i got them again about 8months they were cheaper than 1st time dont ask me why so they on par with supercheap

by **TRD_ZERO** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:13 pm

I went and priced them up at repco and it came over $200 for a set about 2-3 months ago

by **escortman** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:03 pm

that trade?

by **TRD_ZERO** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:04 pm

No it wasnt.

by **escortman** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:06 pm

ook thats why i normally get better than trade too

by **TRD_ZERO** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:40 pm

AceSniper wrote:supercheap are around 60odd big ends and 80odd for mains atm, repco.. even staff price doesnt beat that.

by **escortman** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:50 pm

Website · by **Bling** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:46 pm

ROBODISCO_20v wrote:
matt dunn wrote:and go genuine for the parts, or ACL race bearings, and Toyota rings.
+1

Don't use the ACL rings what ever you do. Genuine only!! I made this mistake & regretted it. Smokey, smokey is all I can say (probably could have done with over sized pistons & rings but that's someone else's problem now)

Does your problem come down to the ACL rings or the fact the engine was rebuilt wrong though?

escortman wrote:seen that appco is same as repco thats suprising because i payed 50 and 60 for bigs and mains

Probably best to state you are getting a hookup if you are quoting prices, otherwise people will think thats the retail price.

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