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Postby Adamal » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:54 pm

2jayzgte wrote:How is it I can speak to 3 different people at TNZ with regards to TRD product and get 3 different prices????


3 different divisions within TNZ themselves or 3 different dealerships?

Dealerships, I could understand, as they're each individually owned and operated.

But if you contacted TNZ themselves, then thats a little odd :?
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Postby 2jayzgte » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:02 pm

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2jayzgte wrote:How is it I can speak to 3 different people at TNZ with regards to TRD product and get 3 different prices????


3 different divisions within TNZ themselves or 3 different dealerships?

Dealerships, I could understand, as they're each individually owned and operated.

But if you contacted TNZ themselves, then thats a little odd :?


TNZ I also used 3 different people at the dealership as well just an experiment I tried and surprise surprise 3 different prices.

This is my problem with TNZ its all mixed messages especially with this product..You'll talk to the Accessories desk which are the people responsible for TRD and they don't push the product at all.It makes me wonder if they really no what they are selling.
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Postby Sick Puppy » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:18 am

So guys, if you want to buy TRD stuff, what do you advise? Call around and hope for the best, anyone have a contact we can talk to... :?:
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Postby pc » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:09 am

I don't think this is a TRD thing, it's a car parts thing in general. One guy gives you a price and he wants lots of 'race tax' the other guy doesn't want to take as much money off you.

I've had some car parts where i've paid about 1/5 of the retail and the seller is still making money on it. I find looking at the prices for parts overseas can sometimes give idea on how much I should be paying.
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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:51 am

Toyota NZ stopped pushing TRD really hard once there Altezza got destroyed

I know a couple of guys who just buy it direct from Japan now, using a service like Jessie street or Ewan at Hyantonka, works out cheap as Toyota NZ are still going to charge you shipping and there Mark up

May as well just pay the Japanese price and the shipping and leave out dealing with the NZ middle man
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:15 pm

Nah was after that. And had nothing to do with that. the plot was lost when one staff member had a better offer and left TNZ
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Postby TRD Man » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:12 pm

I had no idea the service had become so poor. That's a damn shame ... and very saddening for me.
That was 11 or 12 years of hard graft that we sold to TNZ and only did so because I had confidence that they would do it justice.
Perhaps I should have made you an offer to come on board instead Warwick. 8)

As it is, I still field at least one call a week from somebody looking for the product - 4 years later!
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Postby Sick Puppy » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:53 pm

TRD Man wrote:I had no idea the service had become so poor. That's a damn shame ... and very saddening for me.
That was 11 or 12 years of hard graft that we sold to TNZ and only did so because I had confidence that they would do it justice.

So, since you're still being asked, do you want the hassle of TRD sales again, and are there any restraint of trade agreements in place? lol 8)
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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:38 am

JustinSpiderholden wrote:Toyota NZ stopped pushing TRD really hard once there Altezza got destroyed

I know a couple of guys who just buy it direct from Japan now, using a service like Jessie street or Ewan at Hyantonka, works out cheap as Toyota NZ are still going to charge you shipping and there Mark up

May as well just pay the Japanese price and the shipping and leave out dealing with the NZ middle man


Funny you should say that because I heard from a good source the person in charge of the accessories dept. was the guy that wrote the Altezza off in a field near TNZ HQ.

If this is true because of 1 mans accident the rest of the us suffer.See again this is a TNZ F**K-up in my view I don't understand why they would stop pushing this product because of this incident.

Bought a TRD oil filter for my car yesterday that I paid $35 for 18 months ago which now retails for $67 but I got the huge dealership dicount of 5% so I go it for $60....hahahahahaha I found it hard to keep a straight face.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:43 am

^ No that's not true
The person driving it was not in charge of the accessories department.
And the crash of that car had nothing to do with them deciding to give up in TRD. They did however decide that there would be no more $$$ car's built by them for shows etc.

It was well after that crash the changes were made as to how things were done.
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Postby IH8TEC » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:05 am

2jayzgte wrote:
Bought a TRD oil filter for my car yesterday that I paid $35 for 18 months ago which now retails for $67 but I got the huge dealership dicount of 5% so I go it for $60....hahahahahaha I found it hard to keep a straight face.


So let me get this straight, you paid $60 for a filter that has TRD written on it. DAMN 8O
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Postby TRD Man » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:56 am

I can't help wondering if the dissatisfaction you guys are reporting is simply price driven. Or is it something else?

In reality, the oil filter should probably never have been for sale for $35 retail so is the move to $67 a losing of the plot or TNZ re-establishing some common sense in their pricing structure?
I cannot recall exactly what we charged for an oil filter but I'd imagine that with the exchange rate 18 months ago we may have charged $42 or thereabouts and probably around $50 today.
When you consider the extra set of hands and the larger infrastructure, and resultant cost, of buying through a dealership an extra 30% is probably not unreasonable on an item of this small a value.

We were always very aware that many of the prices throughout the last few years were simply lost leaders and as such were unsustainable. I think if there was any losing of the plot it was during this time.

To answer your question, Sick Puppy. Restraint of trade agreements are long over now and I'd be lying if I said I haven't considered taking up where I'd left off. In reality the landscape has changed quite a lot since and, whilst I may remain open to the idea, the likelihood is slim.
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Postby Makaveli » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:57 am

First of all Yen was a lot weaker 18 months ago. Probably around 90 Yen = $NZ 1. Now its like 62 Yen = $NZ 1. Also some engines are more expensive than others. My Celsior (1UZ-FE) Oil filter is like around $50 for Genuine Toyota oil filter. I am sure like Corolla Filters are probably under $20. I don't trust aftermarket brands due to inconsistencies with quality.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:17 am

Coran, you have to remember that most of the parts you got were through backdoor channels as favours. I remember at times a hell of a lot of arm twisting and talking going on to get those deals at manager level. Most margins were stripped from them and were only done due to you being a good long term customer who bought in other customers. So those other customers offset the losses or rather the lack of profit made in sales to you. In other words the promotional effect of you, and your car were factored in when sorting deals. When they decided to no longer discount TRD that would have changed.

Also as mentioned changes in currancy, everything is more exspensive now.
Hell when I was selling TRD springs left right and centre Kings and Dobi's were about $350-400rrp a set, and TEIN were about $450.
Now dobi are like $500 and TEIN mostly $600+!
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Postby RH9 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:17 am

OE Toyota parts prices are stupid...........when you can buy a Sard radiator for the same price as OE one needs to just let his feet do the walking.

I work for BMW, a genune radiator for a 2009 550i motorsport is $1200+gst retail. A radiator for my 2000 Aristo was $1700+gst from Toyota.

Nissan is much cheaper to buy from, OE parts for the GTR are quite reasonable. But Toyota, nup.

Where possible I buy a Japanese aftermarket equivalent for obvious reasons. I suspect the importer (TNZ) have a very greedy mark up compared to BMW which only marks goods up around 75% of cost. Strangely the TNZ dealers seem to want to protect their profits too whereas we will happily give 20-30% off to our larger trade customers.

My 5 cents worth having worked in several different franchise dealerships and also an inside knowledge of Repco where 400% mark ups are not uncommon either.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:33 am

Well, I have found some Toyota parts to be $$$ and others very cheap.
Same with all genuine parts to be honest.
in the last coupla years the Jap makers have tried to egt prices down, Subaru Nissan and Honda have all made steps to improve things.
Funnily enough they were doing it to match what Toyota were doing with trade grade and 2nd hand parts.
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Postby Makaveli » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:45 am

Would someone like to elaborate on TGP Margins and Trade discounts?
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Postby B_giB » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:47 am

I have found TGP to be very reasonable in price, infact in some cases cheaper than aftermarket
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:49 am

on standard parts the dealer gets a 29% discount on rrp
trade discount is 15% so not a lot left for dealers!

on some items the discount to the dealer is a lot less, ie 15-20%
When I left TRD was i think 10% to dealers.
trade grade, which is common service items was a lot larger discount 35% trade and I think 50% to dealers. can't remember the exact dealer discount.
TNZ lost $$ on some of those items

Some dealerships load the TNZ rrp. Which is allowed as long as they have not gotten a specialdiscount from TNZ on the price. A few dealers got into some poo beacuse they were caught doing that
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Postby FLAWLES » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:16 am

Mr Revhead wrote:Well, I have found some Toyota parts to be $$$ and others very cheap.
Same with all genuine parts to be honest.
in the last coupla years the Jap makers have tried to egt prices down, Subaru Nissan and Honda have all made steps to improve things.
Funnily enough they were doing it to match what Toyota were doing with trade grade and 2nd hand parts.


i have to concur with this,
i had to replace all my axle bolts and cv boot after a miss-hap on my jzx100 ( which tnz must hate has they never carry anything for my chassis, but this dosnt bother me )
the bolts were just on $4 retail
the sp washer was $13 retail
and the boot was $90 but i got it for $60
and it was all ex tnz ( for a change hahaha )

part prices will always be all over the place, its a fact of life, if you start comparing other makes and brands with costs you start to get in a pricing war and no one wins, just a whole lot of pple losing out



Mr Revhead wrote:on standard parts the dealer gets a 29% discount on rrp
trade discount is 15% so not a lot left for dealers!



30% to 15% is std practise with dam near every dealership be it trucks/cars/tractors and motor bikes

if you dont need it in a hurry most places do stock orders and you will get 40% off


just my two cents, my car has alot of TRD/TOM'S items in it, 80% of them specialy brought in for me ex tnz, and the prices that i got charged where very very fair, and worked out cheaper than importing them ex japan myself
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