Anyone who knows tires...

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:34 pm

Care to explain to this to me please?

Tire in question: Nankang NS-2. 235/40/R18
Rim: 5Zigen black racing 18 x 9J (So it's stretched but not crazy boso styles, just mildly stretched.
Age: around 5 years, was kept outside on the car but off the ground for 2.5 years. Was bought second hand, I only done about 1,000km's on them.

Story: I was fanging a right corner, then all of a sudden the tire popped (I didn't know that at the time), car went crazy sideways, did correct and didn't die. This tire is located at the rear/left, so it was taking most of the load during that corner.

Pics:

Red arrow shows direction of wheel travel.

Is it because my tires are so old and crap that's why it ripped to shreads when I was fanging it, it couldn't handle the MR ness? Or did I hit something damn hard like a Ginsu 2000 that's causing it to rip apart? My rear/right wheel looks perfectly fine, while this one has random cut spots all over the place with the big ones as shown.

Needless to say the sidewalls are totally destroyed from this incident, I'm lucky that the tire didn't get rip off the rim and destroy my rims too.

Adoom · Post by **Adoom** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:07 pm

WOW! I reckon you ran over some sharp stuff. I managed to run over a frikken razor blade once. My tyre went flat REAL FAST!
I only knew it was a razor blade cause the tyre guy found it rattling around in there when he pulled it off the rim.
Have you pulled the tyre off the rim yet?

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:32 pm

Not yet, I'm still thinking if I should rip both tires off and put on my 2 x Dunlops spares I have, or buy 1 second hand tire to replace this dead one, not so sure if it's a good idea to run unbalanced tires on a MR2 with TEIN's

MR2BOY23 · Post by **MR2BOY23** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:56 pm

Tyres*

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:57 pm

MR2BOY23 wrote:Tyres*

Sorry I'm Amerikan.

gasman · Post by **gasman** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:15 pm

Nankang <----------- theres your problem

Crampy · Post by **Crampy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:22 pm

gasman wrote:Nankang <----------- theres your problem

I've got Nankangs on my car and there's nothing wrong with them.
Mine are brand new though.

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:25 pm

Nankang's are alright.

I think I must've ran over a lot of sharp things because there's a lot of little cuts all over the tire, but nothing on the right hand side.

The road where my tire popped has recently been sealed, but it still doesn't explain the big chunk that it took out.

Crampy · Post by **Crampy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:27 pm

I'd say also because they're second hand and have been unused for 5 years hasn't helped your cause either dude.
Tread looks pretty low and it's probably perished somewhat as well.

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:27 pm

It could be, but doesn't explain why the other tire is sweet.

From the patches of cuts, it looks like I've done a skid ontop of a cheese grater.

I tried to get the tire off myself (For a laugh), Goddamn 40 profile... can't break the bead with my own weight, even if I weight another 40kg's more I doubt it'll make a difference. I even had my arms up against a door frame to push myself down.........

MR2BOY23 · Post by **MR2BOY23** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:33 pm

Drive over it with the wagon r :lol:

That will break the bead

Crampy · Post by **Crampy** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:41 pm

Akane wrote:It could be, but doesn't explain why the other tire is sweet. From the patches of cuts, it looks like I've done a skid ontop of a cheese grater.

I tried to get the tire off myself (For a laugh), Goddamn 40 profile... can't break the bead with my own weight, even if I weight another 40kg's more I doubt it'll make a difference. I even had my arms up against a door frame to push myself down.........

Hahaha, classic. Tyre machines have shit loads of pressure to pop the bead. I'd doubt it if anyone here could do it with their weight.

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:09 pm

I can't drive it over with the Wagon R, the factory kit hangs too low, if these were advanti's i'd do it, but not with 5Zigens..... I know they ain't exactly work or BBS, but still it ain't no DTM or Advanti, or drift R's...

rollaholic · Post by **rollaholic** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:35 am

5zigens are the business!

replace those shitty old tyres for peace of mind imo

stalker · Post by **stalker** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:11 am

Im with Gasman.....its Nankang! Even the guys at Hyper who sell them said the same thing to me years ago when I had to replace mine and then the wifes shortly after.

They are crap, stay well away from them!

Adamal · Post by **Adamal** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:32 pm

Old, crap and fangin.

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:33 pm

It's all good, I have a spare pair of 225's DZ101's....

Gonna be even more stretched now..... great way to make myself look like a tryhard boso.

Adamal · Post by **Adamal** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:17 pm

Dude, go see THASHZ at Mullins Tyres on Barry's Point Rd.

flygt4 · Post by **flygt4** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:27 pm

one rangi way to break the bead is to get a thick plank of wood, rest it on the tyre on an angle, and drive a 4wd or similar heavy vehicle up onto it. then rotate and repeat

used this technique to do the tyres on my quad once, with the scoop of my mates digger and 3 tons of pressure. worked a treat until i pushed the rim in tooo far and crushed the rim like a coke can, she beat back out in the end though.

Akane · Post by **Akane** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:47 pm

Adamal wrote:Dude, go see THASHZ at Mullins Tyres on Barry's Point Rd.

Sweet.

flygt4 wrote:one rangi way to break the bead is to get a thick plank of wood, rest it on the tyre on an angle, and drive a 4wd or similar heavy vehicle up onto it. then rotate and repeat

used this technique to do the tyres on my quad once, with the scoop of my mates digger and 3 tons of pressure. worked a treat until i pushed the rim in tooo far and crushed the rim like a coke can, she beat back out in the end though.

That's.... pretty... rangi.

I was thinking of using a scissor jack and the weight of my vehicle...