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Postby mr30%jr » Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:12 pm

here we go... rusty dude i like you, your celica is nice. just dont go there hahaah :lol:
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Postby ®usty » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:35 am

ahh I got you ;)
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Postby dnalunchie » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:05 am

mr30%jr wrote:here we go... rusty dude i like you, your celica is nice. just dont go there hahaah :lol:
well now im curious... so tell ME who you dont dislike or like why a 3sge is crap
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Postby rollaholic » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:12 am

slow, leaky, big ends...?
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Postby sergei » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:18 am

rollaholic wrote:slow, leaky, big ends...?

Pretty much describes any other engine when not looked after.
Slow applies to a car not engine. Engine performance wise is on par with any other high performance engine with same cc and heritage.
I would also say that factory 1G powered Supra is a very slow car.


1G could also be leaky and have big ends problem.
1GF/GE have same leaky rocker cover problem as 3S.
Big ends... well it is up to owner most of the time (if you run 1G without oil in would also run bearings).
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Postby offensive » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:32 am

my 3s is no leaky leaky
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Postby rollaholic » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:11 am

thats cos 1Gs are shit too

you are right of course sergei

but in my experience 3S is more prone to those problems than they should be
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Postby B_giB » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:13 am

offensive wrote:my 3s is no leaky leaky


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Postby mr30%jr » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:33 am

i can say that easily because ive owned 3x st165s 2x st183s 1x sw20 turbo and 1x sw20 na and an st171 rona

they are shit....

yes if you spend lotsa money here and there they MIGHT not leak and MIGHT go fast. but in comparison other engines arnt as shit.
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Postby Malcolm » Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:46 am

let's be honest though, all the ones you've owned have probably been cheap pieces of shit that haven't been looked after.

I think the 3s is a good engine, obviously pretty old technology these days, but people have done a lot of good things with them, and well looked after/well built ones can last a long time and perform very well.
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Postby sergei » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:13 am

Both of my 3SGTEs don't leak.
One is gen1 (ST165) another is gen3 (ST205).
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Postby dnalunchie » Tue Mar 30, 2010 11:54 am

mr30%jr wrote:i can say that easily because ive owned 3x st165s 2x st183s 1x sw20 turbo and 1x sw20 na and an st171 rona

they are sh*t....

yes if you spend lotsa money here and there they MIGHT not leak and MIGHT go fast. but in comparison other engines arnt as sh*t.


Ganna have to disagree with you there. Ajz on here (My flatmate for past 4 years) owned a Gtt and drove it hard a fare bit of the time, admittedly he did also service it well and let it warm up but it got pushed, never had a problem in 3 years. Before that he owned a 185 and a 183? (Non 4ws 3sge) both went sweet.

I think when buying a performance car it comes down to firstly doing your homework, secondly doing proper servicing and third a bit of luck (Which of these you didnt have/do I dont know)

also I love you 205 Serg, tis sex !
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Postby tsoob » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:03 pm

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Postby sergei » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:16 pm

dnalunchie wrote:also I love you 205 Serg, tis sex !


Thanks :)
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Postby Mr Revhead » Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:03 pm

S motors leak because they lean over
any engine that leans over so oil pools against seals/gaskets and you will find they leak.
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Postby iOnic » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:01 pm

If you replace the oil seals at the service intervals they won't leak. If you've still got the original seals and gaskets in a 200,000km+ engine you can't really complain about it leaking.

My 3S and 5S don't leak and neither did my previous 2 3S's. Poorly maintained engines leak, well looked after engines don't.
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Postby mr30%jr » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:54 pm

Malcolm wrote:let's be honest though, all the ones you've owned have probably been cheap pieces of sh*t that haven't been looked after.

I think the 3s is a good engine, obviously pretty old technology these days, but people have done a lot of good things with them, and well looked after/well built ones can last a long time and perform very well.


yea its over opinionated and im being nasty to 3s engines lol
but my 3 grand low ks st165 sprung a leak it goes ok,

heres a rash way i justify myself, take an n/a aw11 thats nearly the same age, put it next to an st165, how much have you paid on fixing things on the st165 compared to the aw11 :lol:

im only joking around anyways its not like this thread is serious.
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Postby EssDub » Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:55 pm

Simple:

Look after your engine with servicing and whatnot, and it will look after you :)
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Postby mr30%jr » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:00 pm

EssDub wrote:Simple:

Look after your engine with servicing and whatnot, and it will look after you :)


ahhhh sure. regaular oilchanges will fix that $&#$% oil return pipe or that cracking intake pipe..

do you know how much an oem rubber flange that goes from the intercooler to the TB costs?
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Postby EssDub » Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:02 pm

If you really know the answer to that one you should know that nobody would be stuffed buying one in the first place LOL
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