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Postby JustinSpiderholden » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:58 pm

2jayzgte wrote:
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JustinSpiderholden wrote:So if you go faster does that then make you a better driver?


NO.....You should be faster in your own car, if you're not, then talk to these guys about some driver training.


Mate when are you coming to the darkside and getting out of the Mitsi and into a JZA80????


EVO drivers find RWD a we bit to hard that why they are in a EVO in the first place
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Postby Bling » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:58 pm

Them be fighting words :lol: :twisted:
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Postby matt dunn » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:42 pm

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Maybe he had other committments?
But I recall ages ago he was running in the 1.39s/1.38s around taupo.

Still that 2L N/A Integra kicks AR*E, can't beleive the speed of that thing!


Was talking to they guy that does stuff on both the Silvia's,
He did have other committments that weekend and was not there,
and Oliver's silvia is aparantly quicker than the other one.

The 2L integra of Justin Herbets? was also not there,
and aparantly does 1.39's, same as what I did.
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Postby scootevo » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:44 pm

JustinSpiderholden wrote:EVO drivers find RWD a we bit to hard that why they are in a EVO in the first place


And that will be why the WRC cars are 4wd also, the boys can't drive :roll:

I think you'll find it's because we find them a wee bit too slow in anything other than perfect conditions ie, fast dry track.

You'll also find that all the fastest RWD race cars in the country have very sophisticated traction control systems or are Porsches which handle like go carts anyway.
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Postby Bazda » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:01 pm

hmm geta fwd. 2L integra proves it :D.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:42 pm

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You'll also find that all the fastest RWD race cars in the country have very sophisticated traction control systems or are Porsches which handle like go carts anyway.


Care to name some? All the fast ones I can think of most certainly do not have TC. If they did they would be illegal!
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Postby frost » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:49 pm

does that superlap 3sgte silver/blue ae86 have traction control?
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Postby Bazda » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:56 pm

frost wrote:does that superlap 3sgte silver/blue ae86 have traction control?


Dont think so, thats why he has issues around taupo trying to get the power to the ground.
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Postby matt dunn » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:31 pm

scootevo wrote:You'll also find that all the fastest RWD race cars in the country have very sophisticated traction control systems or are Porsches which handle like go carts anyway.



None of the fast RWD cars I can think of have TC on them,
ex V8 supercars, None of the Enduro cars, none of the OSCA cars down here, not on NZV8's,

We played with launch control and Traction control on my car and on the XR6T Focus, and always found it was better if you drove it properly without it. Even though it could break into wheelspin from 180K.

If you need TC, you need to learn to drive.
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Postby rollaholic » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:50 am

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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:55 am

matt dunn wrote:
scootevo wrote:You'll also find that all the fastest RWD race cars in the country have very sophisticated traction control systems or are Porsches which handle like go carts anyway.



None of the fast RWD cars I can think of have TC on them,
ex V8 supercars, None of the Enduro cars, none of the OSCA cars down here, not on NZV8's,

We played with launch control and Traction control on my car and on the XR6T Focus, and always found it was better if you drove it properly without it. Even though it could break into wheelspin from 180K.

If you need TC, you need to learn to drive.


Oh well thats just about everyone on this forum needs to learn how to drive as I no my supra came with TC but I have since had it disconnected but again i think its horses for courses.In my opinion AWD is a form or TC but I guess thats just me..Oh well more driving lessons I guess...lol...lol..
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Postby scootevo » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:51 am

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scootevo wrote:You'll also find that all the fastest RWD race cars in the country have very sophisticated traction control systems or are Porsches which handle like go carts anyway.



None of the fast RWD cars I can think of have TC on them,
ex V8 supercars, None of the Enduro cars, none of the OSCA cars down here, not on NZV8's,

We played with launch control and Traction control on my car and on the XR6T Focus, and always found it was better if you drove it properly without it. Even though it could break into wheelspin from 180K.

If you need TC, you need to learn to drive.


I did say fastest, none of the cars you have mentioned are in that category.

Fastest cars in the country at present are GT1(except the go-cart Porsches) by a large margin.
All the GT1 frontrunners have traction control.

This isn't because they can't drive, this is because a computer can calculate wheel speed and modulate power infinately faster than a human can who has to do it by feel.
Despite what most people think, the driving aids in new cars ie, EBD, ABS,ESC, TC are way better than they are.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:52 am

name cars and drivers
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Postby scootevo » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:08 am

Mr Revhead wrote:name cars and drivers


NoT allowed to do that.

Lets just say..........the fastest Chevs run MoTec TC.
And that the sound they make in the rain isn't a missfire :wink:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:16 am

Not allowed.... :lol:
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Postby scootevo » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:28 am

Mr Revhead wrote:Not allowed.... :lol:


I aint naming names (no matter how obscure this forum is) to make a point.
The info is publically available on NZV8 TV ,TV1 on demand, Knock yourself out :lol:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:34 am

So is that why you don't race? You don't like cheats?
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Postby scootevo » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:40 am

Mr Revhead wrote:So is that why you don't race? You don't like cheats?


Please explain ?, who's cheating? anything goes in our class, we're currently exploring TC and diff controller options for our winter series and the next GT1/GT2 season.
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Postby Truenotch » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:46 am

.... Man this has gone off topic....

Scott, get your car sorted and impress us at a race meeting... I'll be at the winter series and am keen to see it go well.


No need to get into a flame war over who does/doesn't have TC, who cares?


This thread isn't about you or your EVO....
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:47 am

^ very true! :lol:
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