How many WRC ST205's in the country?

gt4dude · Post by **gt4dude** » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:26 pm

OP: Are you serious? One of the 5 Aus spec GT4 WRCs is the one at pick-a-part???????

I heard it's white, Is the hatch in good nick? I need this actually so I don't have to fill in my spoiler holes as I changed to a WRC wing.

Wonder if the Group A badge is still on it, that would be sweet.

I've seen the red one and the silver one in person, still in good nick, very straight.

Why the hell did such a car end up dumped at pick-a-part?? And anyone keen to help me retrieve the hatch? Don't think it will fit in my car lol.

Prymal · Post by **Prymal** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:30 pm

you just need an early hatch , not a late model one .. Same bolt holes ..

it doesnt need to be Group A

As for badges , mines the only one in the country with the group A rallye badges ..

Frank has one but is a big girl and wont put it on , and im going to try and source another two for rich and mister silver car guy on this latest trip to australia..

Im also going to run my vin thru toyota australias database to see if there is any record of it touching these shores ..

gt4dude · Post by **gt4dude** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:51 pm

classique71 wrote:you just need an early hatch , not a late model one .. Same bolt holes ..

it doesnt need to be Group A

As for badges , mines the only one in the country with the group A rallye badges ..

Frank has one but is a big girl and wont put it on , and im going to try and source another two for rich and mister silver car guy on this latest trip to australia..

Im also going to run my vin thru toyota australias database to see if there is any record of it touching these shores ..

Yep thats right, 94-95 Any Celica has the same holes for the 2 post spoiler and wrc wing which is just a standard wing with extender blocks.

Which of the 5 do you own?

I've seen the red one in a parking lot once, I can't remember where, somewhere out east maybe which had the Group A Rallye badge on the back.

The silver one is owned by an older guy whos had it for ages, I met him at a gas station and complimented him on his fine car, asked him if he was a member of any clubs or forums he said no. Can't remember if he had the Group A Rallye badge on the back or not but knew straight away it was one of the 5 as it had the personalised plate GT4 WRC and telltail signs that it was not a Japanese WRC model. I think the leather seats and manual aircon controls gave it away.

Prymal · Post by **Prymal** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:45 pm

i own the one with the group A rallye badge that you have seen

its out and about every day , gets driven every day , and still going strong

Out of the five sold , mine was the first sold , and also , sadly has the highest KMS ..

She still goes strong though , and will get a new more grunty lease of life soon

gt4dude · Post by **gt4dude** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:05 pm

The red one huh.

If I see it again I may stop and have another perve (at your st205wrc ofcourse) + make small talk if you're around.

Does it have the plaque in the cabin??

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v430/cuts/sig12.jpg

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:07 pm

classique71 wrote:i own the one with the group A rallye badge that you have seen

its out and about every day , gets driven every day , and still going strong

Out of the five sold , mine was the first sold , and also , sadly has the highest KMS ..

She still goes strong though , and will get a new more grunty lease of life soon

So your's would have also been the display car that toured with the JZA80?

Prymal · Post by **Prymal** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:09 pm

yup , so i believe ( re touring with supra ).. They told me it was used in shows , previous to being sold , and its sales record/ owners history has alot of dealers against its name for little to no KLMS..

The aussie ones got the plaques , ours didnt , but i am in the process , slowly but surely to do something about that.. Ive spent the at week here in oz trying to chase up as much info i can for the cars , plus some parts hunting , but havent had much success ..

Did manage to find more group A rallye badges available yesterday , which is a start , least if Rich wants one i can get one for him now ..

deaf_rattle · Post by **deaf_rattle** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtnj1k-z4ko

gt4dude · Post by **gt4dude** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:04 pm

So the 5 in nz are 5 out of the aussie 77?

Or are the 5 nz ones in addition to the aussie 77 making 82 in total, the last 5 not receiving a build number but just some production line extras?

the blue gt4 in the ad comes up as toyota cbu 1993, what the hell?

http://www.carjam.co.nz/car/?plate=sy6717

nobody · Post by **nobody** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:29 pm

deaf_rattle wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtnj1k-z4ko

Thanks for posting that, bit of a blast from the past

Lots of the ST204, not much of the GT-Four sadly.

Screenshot for those interested (complete with the stock tri-spokes):

Prymal · Post by **Prymal** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:33 am

re our 5 being out of oz's 77, thats one of the things ill have an answer for on monday when i speak to neal bates again

by the looks of it so far our allocation was seperate.

we didnt get the little additives like badges or plaques the ozzie ones did , but i can still get the extras ..

each ozzy one has a plate , and a spare , and so far my vin hasnt got a record of landing in oz..

Neal will know more.. He also still has his TTE group A in his workshop, still driving and racing in displays/demos

®usty · Post by **®usty** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:56 pm

How about this does yours start ST205 or E-ST205. the E at the start refers to a code for which emissions regulations the car conforms to in Japan. correct??? If none maybe its aussie?

gt4dude · Post by **gt4dude** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:58 pm

®usty wrote:How about this does yours start ST205 or E-ST205. the E at the start refers to a code for which emissions regulations the car conforms to in Japan. correct??? If none maybe its aussie?

both the aussie and the nz one and any other one will start with JT

and both will be ST205R-BLMVZ

Its the numbers after JT that need to be run through the Toyota Australia database or each state's transport agency database to see if it was ever registered there before being imported here.

This will tell us what I asked if the 5 NZ WRC cars were part of the limited 77 aussie builds (then stripped of the cabin plaque before being sold in NZ)

OR

If these were 5 builds after the first 77 meaning a total of 82 Aus-spec GT-Four Group A Rallye cars were built.

If the 5 NZ WRC cars were originally part of the aussie 77, then classique71 would want to obtain the original items that were stripped from the cars before being sold in NZ, This includes the rear badge, cabin plaque and whatever else from the interior was stripped (they're mechanically the same otherwise.)

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:18 am

The "Group A" badge is a TMCA part, so they sourced it and added it to thier cars.
Hence why it's not in the EPC.
I cannot see why they would register those cars in oz then send them here.

Where the export cars built later than the jap ones?

sergei · Post by **sergei** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:57 am

Mr Revhead wrote:The "Group A" badge is a TMCA part, so they sourced it and added it to thier cars.
Hence why it's not in the EPC.
I cannot see why they would register those cars in oz then send them here.

Where the export cars built later than the jap ones?

I have heard rumours of some genuine JDM ST205 WRC that were numbered higher than 5000.

RunningRich · Post by **RunningRich** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:25 am

nobody wrote:
deaf_rattle wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtnj1k-z4ko

Thanks for posting that, bit of a blast from the past

Lots of the ST204, not much of the GT-Four sadly.

Screenshot for those interested (complete with the stock tri-spokes):

Hmmmm, wonder if that is my car? Mine was initially owned by the Albany Toyota manager and used in at least one NZ magazine shoot so possible. There was an identical blue non-Group A used in teh same magazine.

I'm guessing that they slapped available plates on unregistered cars for the photo shoots. The Supra and MR2 were however registered with those plates.

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:27 am

The Supra is still around, serviced by R&B and is owned by the guy that did a lot of the driving in those ads.
Iirc he also has an NZ new AW11.
I also got to serve "Scotty" when I was there. He's taller than he looked on tv....

BR0Z · Post by **BR0Z** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:22 pm

Any info re the ST185 RC's would be apreciated - where the plaque's can be sourced if at all etc.

Cheers, Mark

®usty · Post by **®usty** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:37 pm

UUh JT??

just a note about that blue GT4, wouldn't it have the rasier blocks

so what does the chassis info plate in the engine bay look like?

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:38 pm

Blue one looks like a non WRC one to me.
There is plenty of NZ new ones of those in NZ