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Postby snwtoy » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:19 pm

Hi all, going to bleed the brakes on my caldina tomorrow. I've never done brake bleed before but it sounds very straight forward.

Are there any gotchas to look out for on the dina? I'll be using generic guidelines found with google. Is it strictly necessary to use a tube over the bleeder ( and if so where can I get the correct size tube?) or can I just let the fluid trickle out?

I start with the corner furthest from the master cylinder and work to the closest right ?


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Postby Bling » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:54 pm

For the tube, I just jammed on some 3/8" ISH clear hose I got from bunnings and loosened off the bleed nipple until it was JUST seeping out, then pumped away till no air in the line. I wouldn't do it without tube because a) it will make a mess, and b) hard to tell if there's air coming out of the nipple mixed in with the fluid. Did it in the order you mention too, pretty sure that's correct.
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Postby iOnic » Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:14 pm

Use a tube. Impossible to tell whether you still have air in the system without one and it can also suck air back into the system if you don't have a tube submerged in fluid and sealed against the nipple properly.

Also put some effort into making a proper brake bleeder bottle. A good brake bleeder bottle and a good seal between bleed nipple and tube will save a lot of lost fluid and make the job quicker/cheaper.

Bunnings sells some clear hose for a coupla $ per meter (a meter is plenty). The rest is the same as any other car with the master cyl on the driver's side. RR, RL, FL, FR and don't let the resevoir go empty at any point.
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Postby snwtoy » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:32 pm

iOnic wrote:Use a tube. Impossible to tell whether you still have air in the system without one and it can also suck air back into the system if you don't have a tube submerged in fluid and sealed against the nipple properly.

Also put some effort into making a proper brake bleeder bottle. A good brake bleeder bottle and a good seal between bleed nipple and tube will save a lot of lost fluid and make the job quicker/cheaper.

Bunnings sells some clear hose for a coupla $ per meter (a meter is plenty). The rest is the same as any other car with the master cyl on the driver's side. RR, RL, FL, FR and don't let the resevoir go empty at any point.


Cool, thanks guys.
Is that order correct? If the master cyl is on the driver's side, isn't the RL the furthest away and therefore the starting point?
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Postby iOnic » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:33 pm

Yep :lol: My mistake - was on the wine last night.
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Postby sergei » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:33 am

When I bleed brakes I use pressure method:
I tell "brake presser" to pump couple of times and press hard and hold the brake.
Then I untightened the bleed screw until the liquid stops comping out (when the pedal went down completely).
I tighten while the "brake presser" still holds the brake pedal pressed.
I tell "brake presser" to release and pump couple of times and press and hold again and repeat.

What you need to do is start from the further point in the system and progress to the closest (Left Rear, Right Rear, Left Front, Right Front).

This method is tedious, but it also good to make sure you don't suck air back in.
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Postby blindnz » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:04 pm

sergei wrote:When I bleed brakes I use pressure method:
I tell "brake presser" to pump couple of times and press hard and hold the brake.
Then I untightened the bleed screw until the liquid stops comping out (when the pedal went down completely).
I tighten while the "brake presser" still holds the brake pedal pressed.
I tell "brake presser" to release and pump couple of times and press and hold again and repeat.

What you need to do is start from the further point in the system and progress to the closest (Left Rear, Right Rear, Left Front, Right Front).

This method is tedious, but it also good to make sure you don't suck air back in.


same method i use. probably should get a hose and things though.
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Postby sergei » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:48 pm

blindnz wrote:
sergei wrote:When I bleed brakes I use pressure method:
I tell "brake presser" to pump couple of times and press hard and hold the brake.
Then I untightened the bleed screw until the liquid stops comping out (when the pedal went down completely).
I tighten while the "brake presser" still holds the brake pedal pressed.
I tell "brake presser" to release and pump couple of times and press and hold again and repeat.

What you need to do is start from the further point in the system and progress to the closest (Left Rear, Right Rear, Left Front, Right Front).

This method is tedious, but it also good to make sure you don't suck air back in.


same method i use. probably should get a hose and things though.


Yeah hose is a must, otherwise it squirts like Cytherea.
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Postby snwtoy » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:28 pm

I had to lookup Cytherea :oops:
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Postby metal_sean_head » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:36 pm

snwtoy wrote:I had to lookup Cytherea :oops:


After you said that i just did. LOLOLOLOL.

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Postby Skin » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:08 pm

I love cytherea, shes fine as :)
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Postby cat007 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:17 pm

I use the same method as sergei but I tighten the bleed nipple up BEFORE the fluid's stopped squirting out. That way I know for sure that the system hasn't sucked any air back in through the nipple.

Basically I make sure the person applies pressure to the pedal, then I loosen the nipple off, then before the fluid's stopped I tighten the nipple up.

Can take a little while longer - but can save you loads of time too.
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Postby sergei » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:46 pm

Don't lookup Cytherea if you are in Australia.

It will make you a pervert and paedophile.
As big brother of govt would love to jail you for small boobs and squirting.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-a ... -n278.html


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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:22 pm

Brake bleeding to porn...gotta love TS :lol:

FWIW, I usually bled my brakes the same way Sergei does, and have never had an issue.
Used one of those one man bleeders and had a heap of issue though :?
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Postby Skin » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:26 pm

sergei wrote:Don't lookup Cytherea if you are in Australia.

It will make you a pervert and paedophile.
As big brother of govt would love to jail you for small boobs and squirting.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-a ... -n278.html


http://www.sexparty.org.au/index.php/pr ... tion-board


Lol I thought it was just the uk that didnt believe in that?
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Postby iOnic » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:16 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:Used one of those one man bleeders and had a heap of issue though :?


Most of them are so shit it's not funny :evil: I threw one at a wall once without thinking about it's contents :oops:
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Postby tsoob » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:15 pm

we have a little hose with a one way valve on it, you just get it on and pump away, no need to open and close the nipple. you can even do it on you own!!
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Postby sergei » Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:17 pm

tsoob wrote:we have a little hose with a one way valve on it, you just get it on and pump away, no need to open and close the nipple. you can even do it on you own!!


Well 1 problem with that system - thread. if the hose goes on nipple there is a possibility to suck through the thread of the nipple since it needs to be loose to allow liquid through.
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Postby tsoob » Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:19 pm

sergei wrote:
tsoob wrote:we have a little hose with a one way valve on it, you just get it on and pump away, no need to open and close the nipple. you can even do it on you own!!


Well 1 problem with that system - thread. if the hose goes on nipple there is a possibility to suck through the thread of the nipple since it needs to be loose to allow liquid through.


nah man have done it hundreds of times.
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:22 pm

ive always done as Sergei/Brad etc says when working on any of my cars or mates cars/stockcars/racecars etc
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