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Postby rollaholic » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:38 pm

ford = stay away
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Postby dnalunchie » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:49 pm

rollaholic wrote:ford = stay away


y?
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Postby sergei » Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:57 pm

dnalunchie wrote:
rollaholic wrote:ford = stay away


y?

quality/reliability issues.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:45 pm

Hey if Subaru and Mitsi is in the thread, don't be pointing at a euro Ford :P
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Postby BZG Wagon » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:56 pm

sergei wrote:
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sergei wrote:whatever you do don't buy Galant/Legnum VR4.
GTT is 100 times better vehicle.


Why?

problems:

Gearbox
Lifters
Turbos
Diff (AYC)
Fuel consumption
Electrical

Cambelt is a very costly exercise on those (being V6 and all).
Brakes are weak for that car. Handling is so-so. Has this asthmatic feel due to tiny turbos.


I like the handling / feeling / performance of Legnum VR4's, even in comparison to my own GTT. Other than fuel consumption (and noisy lifters issue) I don't know anyone who has had the problems you listed, and I have a few friends who have pushed them past 200kms.

Overall I'd agree the GTT is the better car, but if I didn't have to worry about petrol I'd be a hard choice between the two.
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Postby Al » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:59 pm

Stretch a bit further....

E36 M3 vert

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Postby dnalunchie » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:19 pm

Al wrote:Stretch a bit further....

E36 M3 vert

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 597630.htm


If ANYTHING breaks kiss goodbye to $1,000's

But those engines.... oh god
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:21 pm

Al wrote:Stretch a bit further....

E36 M3 vert

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 597630.htm


:? thats like a cross dresser..... looks girly... but has man bits underneath
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Postby dnalunchie » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:24 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
Al wrote:Stretch a bit further....

E36 M3 vert

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 597630.htm


:? thats like a cross dresser..... looks girly... but has man bits underneath


like the goat?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:27 pm

I have never touched a male goat in anyway.
Ever.
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Postby dnalunchie » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:28 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:I have never touched a male goat in anyway.
Ever.


female?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:29 pm

Keep it on topic please






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Postby dnalunchie » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:35 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Keep it on topic please






:P


OH this ISNT an OT, I'm just not use to posting actual things....
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Postby frost » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:23 pm

Al wrote:Stretch a bit further....

E36 M3 vert

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 597630.htm


at 230,000km i'd say away from that mess waiting to happen,
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Postby rollaholic » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:57 am

Mr Revhead wrote:Hey if Subaru and Mitsi is in the thread, don't be pointing at a euro Ford :P


i'll point at piles of crap as much as i like thanks very much :P

the subs and mitsis in question are top of the range and widely supported, im not a fan of either company but the cars in question are decent. ford havent built a decent vehicle since the early 80s!

pays to remember the is more to owning a car of this nature than just the purchase price. maintaining them is expensive too... like i always say to people looking at BMWs, its a $5k car with $60k car problems! airbag light came on? kiss a grand goodbye minimum... and so on.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:13 am

rollaholic wrote:pays to remember the is more to owning a car of this nature than just the purchase price. maintaining them is expensive too... like i always say to people looking at BMWs, its a $5k car with $60k car problems! airbag light came on? kiss a grand goodbye minimum... and so on.


I had a customer who had to repair the airbag sensor in a E36 coupe of some type...was part of the seat base 8O
$1500 just for the part....
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Postby rollaholic » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:55 am

yep thats the super common one on E36s, we were doing one a week for a while. you can get em for less than $1500 though :D
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Postby Distrb » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:07 am

possibly a little bit outside your budget, but i reckon it'd be worth it.

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Postby S T E A L T H » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:34 pm

torque steer would be a bit of an issue with that Focus wouldn't it.
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Postby S T E A L T H » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:45 pm

sergei wrote:
S T E A L T H wrote:
sergei wrote:whatever you do don't buy Galant/Legnum VR4.
GTT is 100 times better vehicle.


Why?



problems:

Gearbox
Lifters
Turbos
Diff (AYC)
Fuel consumption
Electrical

Cambelt is a very costly exercise on those (being V6 and all).
Brakes are weak for that car. Handling is so-so. Has this asthmatic feel due to tiny turbos.


I'm assuming you've driven one? Are you seriously tryng to say that they are "astmatic" compared to a GTT Caldina :?:

The manual gearboxes are pretty robust, so are the autos once you upgrade the pissass factory trans cooler to a bigger unit. The rest are maintenance issues.

I accept that they are a more demanding/expensive car to run than the GTT but nevertheless theyre a far superior car
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