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Postby Elmo » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:37 pm

Im looking at getting a boost controller for, yes, wait for it, my diesel truck.

Ive already manipulated the wastegate actuator via fitting washers, but Im looking for a little bit more 'control' over the adjustment.

I dont need anything special, sure, id love a nice flash digital one, but realistically an in cabin manual one will do.

Any suggestions?

Anyone have a good, but cheap one for sale?
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Postby Quirky » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:45 pm

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I use this. Cheap and works well.
Downside, its almost impossible to adjust, 1mm of moment = 2 or 3 psi, change. So its very sensitive.

Turbosmart makes the boost T.
Feels nice and solid, and has 1 click increments for adjustment.
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Postby Elmo » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:45 pm

yeah Im thinking of 'making'my own
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Postby Akane » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:18 pm

You don't want washers, what you want is a pull spring over the actuator.
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Postby 2jayzgte » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:13 pm

I would'nt skimp on a boost controller I use the 1st generation Blitz SBC I-D controller and they give actual really accurate control of the wastegate being a twin solenoid design.
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Postby strx7 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:41 pm

find a GIZZMO IBC second hand on trade me, they are excellent
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Postby QikStarlie » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:19 pm

Akane wrote:You don't want washers, what you want is a pull spring over the actuator.



^ this

what turbo do you have on it? or is it a factory turbo one? i take it we are talking safaris here..


i turbo'd my old mans one not long ago. goes awesome with some boost and a tweak on the injector pump
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Postby Elmo » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:28 pm

Yes its a safari. Its a factory turbo'd rd28

The washers have worked well for several years.
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Postby tsoob » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:06 pm

brand new GFB boost controller JUST realesed onto the market fully electronic $375 inc
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Postby Elmo » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:27 pm

ok, so Ive purchased my "manual boost controller" (very small tap for air bubbles in fish tanks). So how do I plumb it in? I understand all these do is allow a small amount of pressure to vent to atmosphere instead of being added into the boost actuator equation.

ok, so if I put this in the line, the valve will allow the boost to build up a little more.

Problem I come up with is, my gauge is in the actuator pressure line, so If I put this valve in there also I feel the gauge will read lower than the actual boost pressure.

Am I correct in this thinking?

Do I need to change where I take my gauge reading from?
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Postby Malcolm » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:37 pm

yeah you should really take your boost reading from the plenum, generally gives you the best idea of what the engine is really seeing.
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Postby Elmo » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:46 pm

That certainly makes sence when it comes to adding in a controller.
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Postby deaf_rattle » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:50 pm

Elmo wrote:That certainly makes sence when it comes to adding in a controller.

sense?

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Postby tsoob » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:14 pm

Malcolm wrote:yeah you should really take your boost reading from the plenum, generally gives you the best idea of what the engine is really seeing.


this is wrong. Take it BEFORE the throttle body not after it.
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Postby deaf_rattle » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:15 pm

tsoob wrote:
Malcolm wrote:yeah you should really take your boost reading from the plenum, generally gives you the best idea of what the engine is really seeing.


this is wrong. Take it BEFORE the throttle body not after it.


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Postby Scottie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:49 pm

tsoob wrote:
Malcolm wrote:yeah you should really take your boost reading from the plenum, generally gives you the best idea of what the engine is really seeing.


this is wrong. Take it BEFORE the throttle body not after it.
I think its a diesel. On a petrol think about what the gauge would do if you closed the throttle and didn't have a bypass valve.
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Postby Elmo » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:51 pm

Its not just a diesel, its a TURBO diesel! lol
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Postby Malcolm » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:01 pm

tsoob wrote:
Malcolm wrote:yeah you should really take your boost reading from the plenum, generally gives you the best idea of what the engine is really seeing.


this is wrong. Take it BEFORE the throttle body not after it.

Sorry Nick, but I respectfully disagree here. Firstly, as has been mentioned, it's a diesel so there is no throttle body. Secondly, even if there is, what's the point in measuring before the throttle body? At partial throttle you'll have a reasonable pressure drop across the throttle (it is, afterall, a throttle!).

Of course it all depends what you want your boost gauge to tell you, if you want to know how much pressure is in your intercooler piping then certainly, go before the throttle, but if you want to know how much pressure is going into your engine, then go after the throttle body.
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Postby QikStarlie » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:27 pm

i still say add a spring. boost will be more stable and come on faster over a bleed valve. plus wont limit the throw of the actuator like washer mod does.
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Postby mjrstar » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:31 pm

strx7 wrote:find a GIZZMO IBC second hand on trade me, they are excellent


I brought a 2nd hand one of these for my evo and it's about 1000x easier to use then the greddy profec unit I have in the starlet. It seems to work pretty well on for an internal gate setup.
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