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Postby AE86less » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:35 pm

Just weighing up options for my KE70 that I've acquired.

My first thought was to have a go at finding a standard 3T for a bit more torque, but I'm enjoying the economy of the 4K. How much improvement does an EFI kit make to a 4K? I've never even seen a 4K-E in person.

Also, this may count as a wanted thread for any bits floating round :) It's not a thread to suggest 4ages or any other such swaps. Looking for simplicity and a degree of period correctness.
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Postby GTTpower » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:40 pm

I had a chat to Quentin from Club-K when he brought his 4K-E KP60 to the drags, he said fuel economy is massively improved over the carbed version, you get about the same amount of power.

Definitely check out Club-K if you want to know more, good luck finding EFI stuff :lol:
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Postby Bling » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:50 pm

So its good for greenies....

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Postby matt dunn » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:21 pm

I think I can get a almost complete EFI set for a 4K?

Would be worth a bit though.

Let me know if your keen and i'll find out for sure.

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Postby Snoozin » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:13 pm

My 4K-U smoked my flatmates old 4K-E and outdid it on gas, both in KP61 Starlets.

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Postby rollaholic » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:25 am

quad carb conversion on the cards for torneo?
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Postby metal_sean_head » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:30 am

So you have definitely ruled out a 4AGE. You could just chuck an old Big Port in there.
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Postby iOnic » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:41 am

There was a full EFI setup on trademe the other day (may still be on) for a 4K/7K (not sure...memory isn't what it used to be)
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Postby RomanV » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:45 am

iOnic wrote:(not sure...memory isn't what it used to be)


But how do you know it used to be good?
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Postby iOnic » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:45 am

Touche :lol:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:26 pm

imo, 4k-e because you "felt like it" Would need some tweaking to make it worth while I think.
Along the lines of some bigger injectors (Iirc early Laser ones fit) and maybe an older Link.
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But seeing as you have a KE70, I say go the 3T. Would make it a much nicer car to drive. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if its cheaper to run. K motors are not economical at all. Unless you compare them to other things from the 70's.
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Postby rollaholic » Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:34 pm

yeah i was putting at least as much gas into 4k starlet as i was into 4age ae85
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Postby AE86less » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:01 pm

Sweet. Cheers for the input guys. 3T sounds like a better plan.
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Postby RS13 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:19 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:But seeing as you have a KE70, I say go the 3T. Would make it a much nicer car to drive. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if its cheaper to run. K motors are not economical at all.


Lol, I'd beg to differ regarding K economy.. I bought a starlet with a 2K once, had a full tank when I bought it, drove it pretty much daily and didn't need to fill it for a month.. then again, I was a cheap ass and nana'd it everywhere. I think you'll find that they're not that economical when you're thrashing them everywhere trying to keep up with bigger, faster cars.

OP, considered a 2TG? They're period, still reasonably quick and parts are still quite plentiful and reasonable to buy. You can get reasonable power out of them as well.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:23 pm

Cost vs benefit, you'll be a long time paying for the EFI setup. Just get side drafts, fcuk economy and enjoy the noise :D
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