4agze Performance

solitaire · Post by **solitaire** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:43 pm

Hi All,

I see a lot of people turboing 4agze setups, are the supercharged variants that dissapointing?

Reason I ask is that I am planning my next project, a small port AE92 which I am seriously considering throughing a ae101 supercharged front cut at (if i can find one) - I am well aware it is significantly cheaper/easier/better to just sell it and buy a Factory Supercharged one.

So the reason I am asking is so I can anticipate wether or not i will get to the end of the conversion and decide I want to turbo it, all out max power is not important, but if I can't give a vtec or mid range sky barge a run for its money (not piss on, but not get pissed on either) i would be disapointed...

thanks for taking the time to read.

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:47 pm

They are quick cars, they just happen to be a great base to build a turbo engine from. If they were harder to turbo, there would be more left factory i'm sure.

solitaire · Post by **solitaire** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:16 pm

Understood, thanks for that - Didn't really want to get it all certed up only to decide to turbo it.

cheers

dave

Bling · Post by **Bling** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:20 pm

I'm sure others will chime in with some views as they are/were pretty popular cars

matt dunn · Post by **matt dunn** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 6:24 pm

At the lower end of the rpm scale they are way better,

but high in the rpm there ain't much difference between a SC one and an NA version.

If you want fast from one set of traffic lights to the next go SC
If you want power at 100K when you go to pass a car go Turbo.

evil_si · Post by **evil_si** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:45 pm

Ive had many of both s/c and turbo

I love the down low and take off performance of a s/c, and even better with one of my 175mm pulley kits,

But,
Same setup, same boost with turbo, little bit slower off the mark, but wow so much more fun right thru the rev range

I wish had of done a back to back dyno run, to compare s/c before, then turbo conversion after

Quirky · Post by **Quirky** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:43 pm

The rush of the turbo is very exciting.
The annoying thing is that under 3000rpm, a turbo 4age is pretty damn gutless.

h8wrxs · Post by **h8wrxs** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:24 pm

someone i know did back to back runs with turbo vs s/c on a dyno

it was a stock setup on the first run, then pulled the s/c off, bolted up the turbo and i/c etc

the turbo made something like 17kw gain and torque increase right the way through the run

form memory it was a vf10 turbo i think

i used to have an ae92 gtz with one of evil_si's 175mm pulleys and i have to say i love the sound of the s/c whine, sounds awesome

Quirky · Post by **Quirky** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:43 am

I went from 98kw to 138kw ATW on 10psi.
Same dyno.
Id be gutted if i only made a 17kw gain...

OMG so shiny! · Post by **Dell'Orto** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:08 am

Power gain is going to be totally dependant on what turbo you use.
For your car Solitaire, why not just turbo the smallport?

solitaire · Post by **solitaire** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:54 am

Dell'Orto wrote:Power gain is going to be totally dependant on what turbo you use.
For your car Solitaire, why not just turbo the smallport?

Leaning that way - Bling said the same thing

~SlideWays~ · Post by **~SlideWays~** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:12 am

Dell'Orto wrote:For your car Solitaire, why not just turbo the smallport?

This.

solitaire · Post by **solitaire** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:14 am

~SlideWays~ wrote:
Dell'Orto wrote:For your car Solitaire, why not just turbo the smallport?

This.

Yeah, and this:

evil_si wrote:Same setup, same boost with turbo, little bit slower off the mark, but wow so much more fun right thru the rev range