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by **Flannelman** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:19 pm

Fitting name to a small rear wheel drive. Just like the original of the 70s.

Saw it in last weeks paper.

Wonder if Toyota still make 2Js... Id say to put a 4age in it but cosworth took back ownership of the tooling couple of months ago.

by **iOnic** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:27 pm

Hopefully it isn't anything like Celicas of more recent times... :lol:

by **Sick Puppy** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:33 pm

Flannelman wrote:Wonder if Toyota still make 2Js... Id say to put a 4age in it but cosworth took back ownership of the tooling couple of months ago.

Erm, knowing nothing about the history of the 4AGE, do you have any more information or links about this? Do you mean that Cosworth always owned the rights/tooling for these engines?

by **iOnic** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:55 pm

4AGE started out as a pretty close copy of Cosworth's Belt Driven A series (BDA) so it wouldn't surprise me. The two engines are identical in many ways (but they are different in many others)

by **sergei** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:05 pm

iOnic wrote:4AGE started out as a pretty close copy of Cosworth's Belt Driven A series (BDA) so it wouldn't surprise me. The two engines are identical in many ways (but they are different in many others)

You can say that about most of the engines.

by **Mr. Mainstream** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:56 pm

Contrary to a false assumption that the 4A-G is a copy of the Cosworth BDA, (coincidental ‘A’ series designation on both engines). There are little, if any, interchangeable parts between the two engines, outside of maybe some nuts and bolts.

http://www.club4ag.com/faq_and_tech_pag ... 20Tree.htm

by **BZG Wagon** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:14 pm

...and I just jizzed in my pants. :oops:

by **~SlideWays~** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:17 pm

BZG Wagon wrote:

...and I just jizzed in my pants.

I looked over it in person in Paris last year, don't think it had an engine at the time though. Security Guard was keeping a close look lol

by **AE86less** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:32 pm

F*ck yeah, I'd GE myself one of those if it came out :lol:

by **Snaps** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:36 pm

95% production-ready concept:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6i1ejgwqPY

Most recent test car (seen testing at the NBR), even newer than the FT86II concept:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytf5ymzm ... r_embedded

Looks like they've moved the LED driving lights into the headlights, changed the taillights, but there hasn't been much else changed...

by **CelicaGT8** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:03 pm

Makes me want to do naughty things

by **AE25** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:06 pm

i reckon they should've developed the scion FR-S concept over the FT86-II.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1163
looks so much more awesome.
why would toyota call the 86 reincarnation a celica? they've registered '86' too. I'm guessing they'd go for FR-S or 86.

anyone interested in the FT86 should really check out the updates on the FT86club

by **RunningRich** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:12 pm

AE25 wrote:why would toyota call the 86 reincarnation a celica?

Because people that buy new cars don't care about an overhyped 80's budget car.

99% of buyers don't know what an AE86 is and really the AE86 was the end of that family tree. The Celica family is fairly continuous (save the last few years) so is more recognisable (and respected).

by **CelicaGT8** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:51 pm

Celicas are pretty

by **rollaholic** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:52 pm

celica = girls car

by **RunningRich** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:25 pm

You tell Carlos Sainz that to his face... :wink:

by **gt4dude** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:59 am

AE25 wrote:i reckon they should've developed the scion FR-S concept over the FT86-II.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1163
looks so much more awesome.
why would toyota call the 86 reincarnation a celica? they've registered '86' too. I'm guessing they'd go for FR-S or 86.

anyone interested in the FT86 should really check out the updates on the FT86club

Anyone who would name this a Corolla needs to be shot.

by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:42 am

That would be the best looking Celica ever!

Flannelman, wtf are you on about? Cosworth taking back the tooling?
Where did you hear that from?
While there maybe some samness in some angles etc there is bugger all else the same between the 4AGE and BDA.

by **Flannelman** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:28 pm

Wish I knew so I could post the link here.

But found nothing, so its shit. Opps! Should have did alittle research before posting.

Sorry! :oops:

by **AE25** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:31 pm

celica for girls.... pshhhhhh. I'd own an ra28 GT in a heartbeat.
when they stopped making rwd's and 4wd turbo's.. thats when it went downhill fo sure

lol who said anything about 'corolla'. its pretty clear it is a concept born out of the popularity of the ae86. front engine, rwd, lightweight, good hangling etc. but it's definately a unique car from any other toyota line considering it's sitting on a shortened imprezza chassis. show us any official information saying anything about it being a 'Celica'? have you not followed all the press releases and autoshow appearances...
FT86 - 'Future Toyota 86' speaks for itself does it not?

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