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Postby solitaire » Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:54 pm

I get my wof 3 weeks in advanced... that way no stress if something needs fixing - unless I had two cars fail on tyres in the same month (thanks to Pete at Mullins for making it possible)
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Postby HachirokuGTV » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:55 pm

Feels as though its another money making scheme. Not into it myself but I've nothing to hide either so do your worst Coppers.
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:16 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:I'd happily give up a bit of privacy if it means the likes of stolen cars are found etc. what information are you upset they will be able to gain?


At this stage not much, but once they have these cameras hanging off every other motorway overbridge and major intersection (give it 10years) and they start using them for average speed tickets, and more insidiously, logging your movements for the last three years, they will be abused by corrupt/incompetent cops.

I dont have a problem with them if no data is recorded about where/when your plate was seen and checked if it came back clean, but given the history of governments around the world, they will start out saying they won't record it, then one day in the future they will quietly pass a bill in parliament which enables the recording of data, and from there it only goes downhill.

Sort of like they did with IRD numbers, they were entirely voluntary at first, then a few years later they made them compulsory.

Eventually this information will become invaluable to some people, and corrupt cops/non-sworn police staff will be selling access to the data.

Debt collectors, Investigators, journalists, stalkers, etc. Got a dispute with somebody? better hope they don't have a mate who is a cop, or a good hacker.

As for catching crims, how long do you its going to take the crims to realise that sticking a pair of clean plates over the ones on the stolen car mean these cameras wont catch you? Or just pulling the plates altogether. At least with a real cop checking your rego he's going to (maybe) notice that the plates dont match the rego sticker, or the rego sticker/plates for a red toyota corolla is on a white 200sx.
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Postby RomanV » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:29 pm

Always laugh when people come up with convoluted "big brother is watching" type scenarios, and then:

"So and so has just checked in at XYZ" on facebook.

AKA carrying a personal tracking device, having it report their location, and feeling smug about doing so, rather than as though they've had their privacy invaded.
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Postby Mr.Phreak » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:30 pm

Grrrrrrr! wrote: At least with a real cop checking your rego he's going to (maybe) notice that the plates dont match the rego sticker, or the rego sticker/plates for a red toyota corolla is on a white 200sx.

You say that like the cameras can't do it........

Also I hope anyone worrying about things doesn't have a cell phone, or use an eftpos card etc etc.
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Postby Mr Ree » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:35 pm

Wellingtons motorway is completely covered from the onramp of the tunnel, until almost Paraparaumu so it wont change anything down this end of the island.

We have always been watched, we will always be watched.

Accept it, move on, spend time enjoying life rather than worrying about how someone can use pointless information against you.

Unless youre robbing banks, ripping ATM's from walls, or sitting outside kindergartens alot, whats the big deal? So they saw you drive from your house, to the dairy, and the saw you bought a paper and somee milk, then you went and got some petrol, and then popped into the sex store on the way home for a 12 pack of anal condoms...who cares? I sure as hell dont and if people want to spend their days watching that mundane shit, then bully for them :)
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:41 pm

Mr.Phreak wrote:
Grrrrrrr! wrote: At least with a real cop checking your rego he's going to (maybe) notice that the plates dont match the rego sticker, or the rego sticker/plates for a red toyota corolla is on a white 200sx.

You say that like the cameras can't do it........

Also I hope anyone worrying about things doesn't have a cell phone, or use an eftpos card etc etc.


All of which are voluntary, and totally in my control, easy enough to pull the battery or pay cash if you want.

Wait till you've had scumbag register a car you've never seen in your name, (stolen wallet) and change the address your licence is linked too to an imaginary address, then use the vehicle that they've just registered in your name to commit burglaries and then you might realise why I don't like the idea.
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:42 pm

Mr Ree wrote:Wellingtons motorway is completely covered from the onramp of the tunnel, until almost Paraparaumu so it wont change anything down this end of the island.

We have always been watched, we will always be watched.

Accept it, move on, spend time enjoying life rather than worrying about how someone can use pointless information against you.

Unless youre robbing banks, ripping ATM's from walls, or sitting outside kindergartens alot, whats the big deal? So they saw you drive from your house, to the dairy, and the saw you bought a paper and somee milk, then you went and got some petrol, and then popped into the sex store on the way home for a 12 pack of anal condoms...who cares? I sure as hell dont and if people want to spend their days watching that mundane shit, then bully for them :)


see my previous post... what happens when it wasn't you, but their computer says it was?
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Postby Bling » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:45 pm

In other news, the share prices for tinfoil have just doubled :lol:
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Postby Mr Ree » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:12 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:In other news, the share prices for tinfoil have just doubled :lol:


Thats great news, I might be able to onsell some of the many layers of it I have lining my ceilings and walls. I went a bit overboard on it back in the day when photo licenses were brought in ;)
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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:14 pm

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Postby 1I1 » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:47 pm

solitaire wrote:I get my wof 3 weeks in advanced... that way no stress if something needs fixing - unless I had two cars fail on tyres in the same month (thanks to Pete at Mullins for making it possible)


You can get a WOF done up to two weeks before it expires and it post-dated to the date it expires, I have no idea why people wait till its just going to expire other than forgetting about it or lazyness/not knowing this is possible.
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Postby jaypines » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:40 am

1I1 wrote:
solitaire wrote:I get my wof 3 weeks in advanced... that way no stress if something needs fixing - unless I had two cars fail on tyres in the same month (thanks to Pete at Mullins for making it possible)


You can get a WOF done up to two weeks before it expires and it post-dated to the date it expires, I have no idea why people wait till its just going to expire other than forgetting about it or lazyness/not knowing this is possible.


yeah this... that is if the wof inspector or the one entering data on the landata knows what they are doing. some wof inspectors are just lazy to put the correct expiry on the system.
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:54 am

jaypines wrote:yeah this... that is if the wof inspector or the one entering data on the landata knows what they are doing. some wof inspectors are just lazy to put the correct expiry on the system.


From what I remember in the older system the expiry date was automatically calculated, and the usual complaint was the WOF guy put a 6 month WOF on cars still eligible for a 1 year WOF cos he just added 6 months to the current date instead of checking the screen.
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Postby solitaire » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:07 am

1I1 wrote:
solitaire wrote:I get my wof 3 weeks in advanced... that way no stress if something needs fixing - unless I had two cars fail on tyres in the same month (thanks to Pete at Mullins for making it possible)


You can get a WOF done up to two weeks before it expires and it post-dated to the date it expires, I have no idea why people wait till its just going to expire other than forgetting about it or lazyness/not knowing this is possible.
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Postby Mr Ree » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:15 pm

Damn, I just got a wof last week, 2 weeks before it expired, but the new wof expires 6 months from the check date :(

Oh well, atleast those crafty white vans wont get me now :)
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Postby Lith » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:18 pm

Dell'Orto wrote:More interested in h4xing Skynet tbh :lol:


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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:24 pm

Mr Ree wrote:Damn, I just got a wof last week, 2 weeks before it expired, but the new wof expires 6 months from the check date :(

Oh well, atleast those crafty white vans wont get me now :)


Yeah. Also it seems now that if it fails, it's failed. Therefore old WOF is invalid.
Which makes sense as at any time your car is not up to WOF standard you can be fined.
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Postby solitaire » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:26 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Yeah. Also it seems now that if it fails, it's failed. Therefore old WOF is invalid.
Which makes sense as at any time your car is not up to WOF standard you can be fined.
Well i understand the meaning behind it, but damn that makes it difficult to get repairs done - if you get a $1000 bill for repairs up to wof standard that you have to get done immediately because you can't drive it until it passes... defeats the purpose of going for a wof early.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:31 pm

Yes. However having a current dated wof displayed will prevent you getting pinged at random stops and by parking wardens.
But the letter of the law, it's your responsibility to keep it at WOF standard at all times.
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