NGK BCR8ES sparkplug discontinued? (4AGTE)

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NGK BCR8ES sparkplug discontinued? (4AGTE)

Postby ~SlideWays~ » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:11 am

I run these sparkplugs in my 4AGTE because the standard 4agZe plug (BCP6ES from memory) caused misfiring with the higher boost.

Problem is the car has been sitting for 2 years so the last time I bought the plugs was at least 3 years ago and now I can't find them anywhere.

I've tried Repco who said they have none in the country.
Supercheap had none.
The local motorsport supplier I usually use has tried everyone they can but can't find any in the country. Strangely no one has been able to confirm if the plug was discontinued or if there is a replacement/equivalent sparkplug available.

I thought it would just be a case of cross referencing in a catalogue but so far I've got no answer.

I'm guessing its almost certain that it is discontinued but I'm surprised how hard it has been to get any kind of answer from any supplier.

Has anyone else used this sparkplug and have any suggestions?
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Postby bluemaumau » Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:26 pm

yes they have changed the code, barry knows the new one, so do i but its back home in nz.

if you cant get hold of baz ill email my olds, get them to find it
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Postby Bazda » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:30 pm

Interesting. I didnt know there are none.
Anyhow I tried using the V series plugs but found out they actually fouled up more easily.

I run champion plugs for racing and find them to be awesome.
I was running a really cold plug like a 10 range. Prob a bit of an over kill but they never seemed to foul up even on the road.

You can get them in the 8 range. Called a C61CX

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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:40 pm

Cool cheers for the info guys, I'll look into the Champions. 8)
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Postby DexGT » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:16 pm

I got the NGK 8's I run in the starlet from Shane(looseunit) at supercheap in porirua , he had to order them in and I can't remember the number atm but they were very reasonably priced . I will look up the number as I want to get some more soon and let you know.
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Postby l1ttle_d3vil » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:04 pm

I've been told to run NGK BKR7E plugs in my 4agte.

They kept fouling up though so changed to BKR6E I think...
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Postby LEAKER » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:38 pm

thought about cross referencing to a platinum or an iridium plug?
Sure they're a $&#$% load more expensive, but they last 80k and they work better on med to high boost applications than standard plugs.
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Postby Al » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:39 pm

LEAKER wrote:thought about cross referencing to a platinum or an iridium plug?
Sure they're a $&#$% load more expensive, but they last 80k and they work better on med to high boost applications than standard plugs.


Utter garbage.
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Postby Lloyd » Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:45 pm

Find some BCPR8ES or BCPR8EY plugs? Gotta be something in their range that does what you want

And for reference...

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Postby thegreatestben » Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:28 pm

There is a replacement for the BCR8ES's it starts with R.
Comes in the yellow box and still cheap.

It's like R2516-8 or something.
It crossed over for me when I still worked at repco and needed a new set of BCR's for the 7agte.
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Postby Bazda » Sat Jul 30, 2011 6:36 pm

thegreatestben wrote:There is a replacement for the BCR8ES's it starts with R.
Comes in the yellow box and still cheap.

It's like R2516-8 or something.
It crossed over for me when I still worked at repco and needed a new set of BCR's for the 7agte.


Thats the V-series plugs called V power. I found them to foul up more easily.
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Postby thegreatestben » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:38 pm

Seemed to be ok in mine, obviously quite the difference between the two engines etc.
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Postby phoenix » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:58 pm

Get some Denso Q20P-U from Marky Mark? Denso coppers through him were less than half the price of NGK copper equivalents sourced from Repco/SC last time I checked.
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