Anyone else have their eye on the FT86?

[Snaps]

But unless you're 7' you're not gonna be driving like that, are ya?

[AE82 FXGT]

If it was all about design philosophy then you would all love the RX8 too.


I'll make my judgement after driving one .

I do. I used to have one.

I haven't driven anything that comes close to what that thing could do on a good twisty bit of road.

[thaphatty]

not trying to shit on anyones parade but its going to be shithouse.

altezza was supposed to be the same thing but they $&#$% it up royally, this will be no different

[Leon]

My guess is that it will be priced high enough that there *might* be maybe one, or perhaps two buyers of this car from the entire Toyspeed population.

I am assuming that it's a Subaru derived n/a flat four. I wonder if this will mean that no power, high fuel consumption, leaking cam cover gaskets, oil surge, and bhg will be on people's minds once the new car warranty runs out.

Could it be cool? Definitely.

Will it be cool? I'll definitely be watching the enthusiast reviews once it's actually for sale

If it's a good car then maybe in five years or so after production begins we might see a few of them being used in motorsport at club level.

[xsspeed]

And by that stage TRD lines will all be discontinued

[dnalunchie]

My guess is that it will be priced high enough that there *might* be maybe one, or perhaps two buyers of this car from the entire Toyspeed population.

I am assuming that it's a Subaru derived n/a flat four. I wonder if this will mean that no power, high fuel consumption, leaking cam cover gaskets, oil surge, and bhg will be on people's minds once the new car warranty runs out.

Could it be cool? Definitely.

Will it be cool? I'll definitely be watching the enthusiast reviews once it's actually for sale

If it's a good car then maybe in five years or so after production begins we might see a few of them being used in motorsport at club level.

I think you are stuck in the 90's with your opinion of subaru engines

[Mr Revhead]

not trying to shit on anyones parade but its going to be shithouse.

altezza was supposed to be the same thing but they $&#$% it up royally, this will be no different

When was the Altezza meant to be anything like the AE86?

[Leon]

I think you are stuck in the 90's with your opinion of subaru engines

Yes, and that I suspect is true of a lot of the general population, because you will note that I was speaking of what people perceive as being things that will go wrong

"will be on people's minds"

[Leon]

When was the Altezza meant to be anything like the AE86?

Come on Warwick, we know EVERYTHING rear wheel drive is just a thinly disguised race car (even Mitsi L300 vans), and EVERYTHING front drive is just a boring shopping basket that no REAL driver would ever own. Or is that just something the flat peak wearers say?

[GTTpower]

Introduced in 1998 with the AS200 (chassis code GXE10) and RS200 (chassis code SXE10) sedans, the compact vehicle was produced using a shortened front-engine, rear-wheel drive midsize platform,[5] allowing Japanese buyers to take advantage of tax savings imposed by Japanese government regulations concerning vehicle exterior dimensions and engine displacement, and adapted parts from the larger second generation Aristo/GS.

Nothing here about being descendent of AE86
(yes I know, wikipedia; take it at a grain of salt)

[AE82 FXGT]

When was the Altezza meant to be anything like the AE86?

Come on Warwick, we know EVERYTHING rear wheel drive is just a thinly disguised race car (even Mitsi L300 vans), and EVERYTHING front drive is just a boring shopping basket that no REAL driver would ever own. Or is that just something the flat peak wearers say? <span class='tooltiptrolol'><img src='chrome-extension://hndllphbhpadfpoikpaofkkkpkpnmjik/images/emoticons/lol.png' /><span>lol</span></span>

where does that leave me with all wheel drive?

[hross]

not trying to shit on anyones parade but its going to be shithouse.

altezza was supposed to be the same thing but they $&#$% it up royally, this will be no different

what the, who hah?

The Altezza was never supposed to be this... it was designed to compete against the 3 series etc

Quoted from wikipedia:
"Produced as a direct competitor to the luxury sport sedans of the leading European luxury marques, the XE10 series Toyota Altezza and Lexus IS was designed with a greater performance emphasis than typically seen on prior Japanese luxury vehicles"

thaphatty, I don't see how you can see luxury sports sedan when you look at the FT86 - this thing has had a shit load of money invested and somehow they managed to get the project past the investors despite the fact that Toyota knows it may not make much money producing such a car. They want to make a sports car with this, not something halfway sporty with a touch of leather.

For all those bagging this because of no factory turbo. I am sure since the car features the same mounting points as the Subaru variant that there will be a stock Suby motor (older or newer) that should bolt in. I'm Just saying...

Also, the test mule ran in at third place in the recent Nürburgring Nordschleife, and while it was almost beaten by 1min against the Civic Type R, it is still promising when you consider that there is almost no data on the mule to produce a race ready setup. Also, check out the 15sec difference against the S2000 .. that's not bad if you ask me. The S2000 motor is tight, so Toyota must be doing something right



I have already negotiated this as a future purchase with the misses.. no way I'm missing this thing. What other options have you got for an affordable, modern, tail happy RWD in today's auto market?



IMHO, close to none.

[~SlideWays~]

What other options have you got for an affordable, modern, tail happy RWD in today's auto market?

Cheap MX5 plus turbo = profit?

[hross]

I suppose it all depends on the price.

NZ new MX-5 starts @ NZ$51,100 that's soft top and from what i understand doesn't feature a turbo (similar to the 2.0lt offered in the Mazda 3) - check it out at their site below.

http://www.mazda.co.nz/compare-models/146,132

If the FT86 comes in below that ill be more than happy. Plus it has the extra seats (could come in handy for track day luggage ).

[S T E A L T H]

not a lot avaiable new in that segment in NZ for the same money.

As long as they dont put the Hyundai Genesis onto the NZ market they should sell a few of these things.

[1I1]

Aussie is meant to be getting the Genesis so theres a chance we might too.

[BZG Wagon]

As long as they dont put the Hyundai Genesis onto the NZ market they should sell a few of these things.

^^ thats cool!!!

2 door, 228kw, RWD, 6 speed manual. On paper it sounds amazing.

[RomanV]

I do. I used to have one.

I haven't driven anything that comes close to what that thing could do on a good twisty bit of road.

I've had 2 gen 1 SW20s, currently one thats really crap and on the worst tires known to man.

Keeping this in mind, I have never driven anything so unpredictably complete sideways oversteery in the wet as a mates RX8.

(Had aftermarket 18" wheels and tires though, so not entirely stock in fairness)

Seemed reasonable on a bash around Scenic drive, but no way it comes near a half decent MR2.

[S T E A L T H]

Aussie is meant to be getting the Genesis so theres a chance we might too.

Yep looks like it http://www.caradvice.com.au/134931/hyundai-genesis-coupe-confirmed-for-australia/

the 2.0 turbo should be good value, they start at USD $22k in the states

[1I1]

I quite like the Genesis. Up to now it's only been produced LHD though. And the fact you could get V6 NA or 4banger turbo