Builders or people that know about timber... Help!

[FST4RD]

Hey all,

Building a garden shed for the other half.
Was going to build it using 100x100 for the 4 corner posts. Was going to make it 2.6m out of the ground, plus a third undergroud I would need 4m lengths. Most places I have rung or been to only have it in 3m lengths.
I would use 100x75 at a push which I can find in 4m lengths, but most of the stuff I have found is pretty bowed, not good.

Anyone know where I can find 100x100 rough sawn in 4m lengths?

The shed base isn't going to be square, front will be 2.6m, back 1.7m, one side 3.6m and the other side 2.9m and 2.6m high. This is to fit into a specific area.
Am I going overboard with 100x100 for the 4 posts for this project?

[Bling]

What about fence posts? 125x75 or something. Pretty sure that would be the cheapest option. Or at least I remember them being cheaper than 100x75 and 100x100 years ago. Used two of them for my washing line.... that sucker isn't coming down easy. 4m is overkill though, 3.6m should cover your 2.6m + 1/3 in ground. And should be easier to get a hold of.

If I was knocking up a shed like that i'd probably just get some house piles (pretty cheap), concrete some of those in. Then build a base on top of those. Then knock up some 100x50 or smaller perhaps framed walls then just sit them all on the base and fix them down to the base and to each other with bracing. Slam on a roof and have the roof shout.

Dunno, i'm not a builder, just a DIY'er that usually uses no plans and builds as he goes. So my idea might be well off the 'correct' way to do it

[FST4RD]

I'm a DIY'er as well... Although I have drawn up some plans... that I tend to change as I go along
I just want to make sure that it's not going to come down in a quake... although with 100x100 uprights, 100x50 bracing them together I would be safer in the garden shed then in the house in a quake

[Bling]

If one side is 3.6m long, i'd say you'd want more than 4 posts in total. Perhaps 6 posts. As for what size, check 125x75 as with them being standard fence post sizes I think they tend to be cheapest. Why 2.6m high?

[rallymazda]

How about getting 100x50 and nailing together? would be cheaper than 100x100.

1m into the ground seems alot, id only go 600mm with concrete or 900mm without.

[wde_bdy]

Be careful on floor area, I know local to me over 10m2 permanently attached to the ground requires a permit. My garden shed is built out of 50x50, each wall built separate then stood up and screwed together along with a roof panel. Built on on an upside down half round base so totally moveable as required.

Callum

[FST4RD]

I was told by a builder a third into the ground. Will be concreted...
I thought 2.6m at one end and 2.4m at the other for drain off.
I thought 2.6m high since the partner has A LOT and I mean A LOT of gardening stuff. Means I can hang a lot of it etc.
I was planning on running a board across the ground between the posts, across the top and 1 in the middle, then running bits of wood vertically between them so I can screw the cladding to it easier. This should also stop any of the horizontal pieces from sagging etc.

Am i going in the wrong direction?

[FST4RD]

Be careful on floor area, I know local to me over 10m2 permanently attached to the ground requires a permit. My garden shed is built out of 50x50, each wall built separate then stood up and screwed together along with a roof panel. Built on on an upside down half round base so totally moveable as required.

Callum

I wouldn't had thought 50x50's would have been strong enough to hold everything up? Then again I'm not a professional so I'm probably wrong
I was going to use red bricks (got to find some, anyone that has some they don't want let me know!) for the floor, then it would match my shed which has heaps of my partners gardening bits in!

[FST4RD]

Be careful on floor area, I know local to me over 10m2 permanently attached to the ground requires a permit. My garden shed is built out of 50x50, each wall built separate then stood up and screwed together along with a roof panel. Built on on an upside down half round base so totally moveable as required.

Callum

Oh and good to know about the permitting... hmmm mine should just be under that...

[Bling]

Standard ceiling height in a house is 2.4m..... so 2.6m just kind of threw me as being a bit overkill I would have thought 2m would be enough. If its right next to a fence you might want to be careful you don't piss the neighbours off.

Built my shed base out of 200x25mm h4 timber, 3 years on still going strong.

Rallymazda brings up a good point..... 2x 100x50mm together.

[FST4RD]

I'm 1.9m tall, plus the height of the bricks means I would be having to duck to get into it! But I guess if I make it 2m tall I could use 3 meter lengths.
My shed is 3.6 long and 3.2 meters wide along with a 3 meter height!

Not going to close to a fence, still going to be around 1m from the fence, and the hedge there is about 3.5m tall anyway

[loudstealthGT-Four]

Hey all,

Building a garden shed for the other half.
Was going to build it using 100x100 for the 4 corner posts. Was going to make it 2.6m out of the ground, plus a third undergroud I would need 4m lengths. Most places I have rung or been to only have it in 3m lengths.
I would use 100x75 at a push which I can find in 4m lengths, but most of the stuff I have found is pretty bowed, not good.

Anyone know where I can find 100x100 rough sawn in 4m lengths?

The shed base isn't going to be square, front will be 2.6m, back 1.7m, one side 3.6m and the other side 2.9m and 2.6m high. This is to fit into a specific area.
Am I going overboard with 100x100 for the 4 posts for this project?

you should only need some 3.6m posts, Gold Pine (edit, in Invercargill) have 100x100mm rough sawn timber in 3.6m lengths.

100x100mm posts aren't overkill, just wondering if you could put up a pic of the area your building the shed in, the sizes seem abit strange

As for finding straight bits of timber, pine is horrible timber to work with sometimes, but dont let them sell you bowed timber, just check through it and find the straight/est peices

[FST4RD]

The area is triangular, although there is a small tree that my partner won't let me cut down to make things easier.
if you can imagine that the right side looking at it will be 3.6m, the back wall will be 1.7m long and come off that at an easy 90 degrees, the front is only 2.6 meters wide and will come off the right wall at about 75-80 degrees meeting the left wall at 2.9m long.
If she let me remove the tree I would make a simple triangle shape shed and my life would be easier!

Another question... over 3.6m how much drop should I need for the roof? I was thinking 15-20cm?

[wde_bdy]

1. Delay shed build
2. Poison tree
3. Cut out dead tree
4. ??????
5. Profit

[FST4RD]

1. Delay shed build
2. Poison tree
3. Cut out dead tree
4. ??????
5. Profit

My life wouldn't be worth living of that tree died, trust me!

[wde_bdy]

There are 130 trees missing from my place, most of which were supposed to make my life not worth living. Replacing with the latest fad tree and you will be sorted, productive fruit trees/berries work best.

Callum

[fangsport]

1.3m into ground is super overkill, not even required that deep (unlees in shite ground) for anchor pile in a timber framed floor.

any decent timber merchant should have 4 x 4 in 3.6m lengths.

scan and email your plans and will advise any necessary changes

[FST4RD]

There are 130 trees missing from my place, most of which were supposed to make my life not worth living. Replacing with the latest fad tree and you will be sorted, productive fruit trees/berries work best.

Callum

You must have a forgiving missus!

[FST4RD]

1.3m into ground is super overkill, not even required that deep (unlees in shite ground) for anchor pile in a timber framed floor.

any decent timber merchant should have 4 x 4 in 3.6m lengths.

scan and email your plans and will advise any necessary changes

Sweet will do.

I have decided that I will go with a 2.2m roof at the back and 2m at the front (to allow for drain off). I'm not going to be going into the gardening shed and my partner is only up to my shoulders, so should be fine for her.

I have new guttering I was gifted so i am well pleased with this. I was thinking I might buy a big couple thousand liter tank and collect some of the rain water. With all the earthquakes and the promise of more coming and the lack of water in the area from the last few big ones I thought this might be a good idea.