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I need the full truth about bucket seats and wofs??

Postby LEAKER » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:41 pm

Can anyone advise 100% what the situation is.

I want to put fixed back bucket seats in my gt4. Do i have to rip out the back seats" I have factory rails which were modified for reclinable bucket seats and which have passed every wof for the last 5 years but if i'm going to fit fixed backs i suspect i may run into problems??
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Postby iOnic » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:53 pm

Need cert for modified rails too.
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Postby LEAKER » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:06 pm

so theoretically if it's modded, it needs certing.
Interesting that it hasn't been pulled up on it for the last 5 years.
I remember everyone used to talk about fixed back bucket seats being illegal in 2 door cars etc etc. I can't see any mention of that. Would that be a question for a certifier?
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Postby LEAKER » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:08 pm

scrap that question. Just found this:

http://www.performancecar.co.nz/article ... -seats-139
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Postby iOnic » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:14 pm

On a slightly related note, how does one exactly register a vehicle as a 2 seater? I've heard of this hundreds of times but never come across this. My MR2 isn't registered any differently to any of the other cars I own and all my previous cars I've pulled the rear seats out of carried on just fine with the seatbelts removed and no registration changes. Is this just another urban legend?
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Postby AE82 FXGT » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:38 pm

My understanding (didn't read any of the above articles so not sure if 100%) is that if the seat and rails are bolt up with no drilling/cutting involved and are of reputable brand then it's fine.

I've passed dozens of cars like this and will continue to do so as I don't see it being a problem.

If the rails or mounting points have been $&#$% with (or homemade rails) then I'd fail them.
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Postby siren676 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:44 pm

So if i fitted my fixed back seat into my starlet it would pass a wof since its a genuine ep91 bride rail and fia approved seat?
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Postby wde_bdy » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:55 pm

siren676 wrote:So if i fitted my fixed back seat into my starlet it would pass a wof since its a genuine ep91 bride rail and fia approved seat?


Yes, as long as not subject to frontal impact laws and it does not affect the seat belt.

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Postby siren676 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:59 pm

wde_bdy wrote:
siren676 wrote:So if i fitted my fixed back seat into my starlet it would pass a wof since its a genuine ep91 bride rail and fia approved seat?


Yes, as long as not subject to frontal impact laws and it does not affect the seat belt.

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I've left it out as im too skinny and the 3 point seatbelt doesnt sit on me, it sits on the sides of the seat.
Do the frontal impact laws mainly apply to cars with airbags?
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Postby Mr Ree » Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:40 am

If you are fitting fixed back bucket seats to a 2 door car and you need to re-register your car as a 2 seater, just remove your back seats, and seat belts and go to any VTNZ testing station to have your car inspected and recategorised. Its free

Just be sure to NEVER think its ok to put some passengers in the back after doing this as the fines arent cheap.
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Postby 1I1 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:37 pm

siren676 wrote:I've left it out as im too skinny and the 3 point seatbelt doesnt sit on me, it sits on the sides of the seat.
Do the frontal impact laws mainly apply to cars with airbags?


That would then be a fail, no?
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Postby siren676 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:58 pm

Yeah most likely. I only put it in the car for racing so I just use the harness to and from the track.
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