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by **DXROLLA** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:39 am

Im on the hunt for a new vehicle, all it is going to be used for is a weekend racer, with a couple of track days thrown in. Ive previously owned a sti coupe which i loved, but have always loved the look of the st205 gt4 or even a gt4 rc st185. How would they compare to the sti?

Any issues with them when you start pushing them hard, i know the subbys can run out of oil when pushing them hard around corners causing them to run bearings quite easy.

Engine wise ill be keeping them pritty stock as i want to try and keep them reliable, but will be looking at decent suspension and brakes maybe a roll cage, so getting aftermarket parts is also a priority.

Any advise would be great or other options aswell will be considered, budget for vehicle is $10,000

by **Mr Ree** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:47 am

I would say the Toyota would be the better bet if youre planning on keeping it relatively stock.

As you say, the boxer engines have a bad rep for running bearings at the track so just stick with good old toyota reliability

by **no_8wire** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:13 pm

Because 3s engines are bulletproof!

:lol:

by **Mr Ree** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:31 pm

Everything is relative though

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:32 pm

Lol.

First things first. What year sti? They built rather a few different ones....

by **DXROLLA** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:07 pm

Version 3-5 RA STI, maybe earlier if tidy enough but that would be a stretch finding a tidy one of those :roll:

by **dnalunchie** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:50 pm

If you are going for an sti go for a version 4 + they changed the engine at that point and are meant to be alot more reliable.

by **DXROLLA** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:59 pm

Yeah i think around the version 3 must be a cross over year, as i noticed when i bought my version 4 type r that the version 3 i looked at had the same engine but didnt have airbags and had the earlier dash ect. Very confusing with the wrx as there seems to be soooo many different models and variations, such as your ra ltd, sti ra, imports and nz new ones, they all seem to have different turbos or options, very confusing lol

by **iOnic** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:13 pm

Stock for stock, I'd take the STI over the GT4 without batting an eyelid. STI's are rocketships in comparison. Reliability is about the same between the two. The big telling point will be your budget though. $10k will get you a nicer ST205 than it will an STI. If your budget can be stretched, there is a third option that is better than both the substitute teachers :twisted:

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:15 pm

Really? If talking early sti I'd take the gt4. A much better car for everything unless you want to carry passengers.

by **Heylin** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:21 pm

Ill get shot for saying it, but it seems Integra R Types are quite the track car, if you decide to get serious you can build on it, seems to be quite a few racing classes they can compete in.

My GFs cousin runs one in the Honda Cup, roll caged and stripped out with some basic NA mods and beefed up suspension they handle real well and no turbo lag to worry about

by **DXROLLA** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:23 pm

iOnic wrote:Stock for stock, I'd take the STI over the GT4 without batting an eyelid. STI's are rocketships in comparison. Reliability is about the same between the two. The big telling point will be your budget though. $10k will get you a nicer ST205 than it will an STI. If your budget can be stretched, there is a third option that is better than both the substitute teachers

If your talking about an evo i think they are over priced, particully the early ones (1,2 and 3) and dont get me started on gsr :roll:

But yes if i could afford one i think i would have one over the sti and gt4

And im not worried about passengers, the thing that draws me to the gt4 is they are alot rarer in the fact you dont see so many around driven by dip shits.

by **DXROLLA** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:26 pm

Heylin wrote:Ill get shot for saying it, but it seems Integra R Types are quite the track car, if you decide to get serious you can build on it, seems to be quite a few racing classes they can compete in.

My GFs cousin runs one in the Honda Cup, roll caged and stripped out with some basic NA mods and beefed up suspension they handle real well and no turbo lag to worry about

Yes the type r has crossed my mind, but im a bit of a rally fan hence why i would like a 4wd turbo with a bit of pedigree i guess you could say :lol:

by **iOnic** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:41 pm

DXROLLA wrote:
If your talking about an evo i think they are over priced, particully the early ones (1,2 and 3) and dont get me started on gsr But yes if i could afford one i think i would have one over the sti and gt4

Yeah they're not cheap but IMO a 3/5/6 would be the perfect weekend warrior. 3's are getting a bit long in the tooth and in general, an unmolested Evo is hard to come by and demands lots of $$$. GSR's are rubbish - don't even go there :lol:

Good luck though, either way you're gonna get something capable.

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:53 pm

Really you need to go drive a few of each to get an idea of which you prefer

This thread is just heading to a shit fight lol

by **iOnic** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:57 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
This thread is just heading to a shit fight lol

Keen to watch. The other X vs Y vs ST205 threads have gotten interesting

by **DXROLLA** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:05 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Really you need to go drive a few of each to get an idea of which you prefer

This thread is just heading to a shit fight lol

Haha i dont wont to start a war really just looking for info on the gt4s and if they would be capable of doing what i want

by **Toby** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:30 pm

DXROLLA wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:Really you need to go drive a few of each to get an idea of which you prefer

This thread is just heading to a shit fight lol

Haha i dont wont to start a war really just looking for info on the gt4s and if they would be capable of doing what i want

You're in Christchurch?

I reckon the GT4 would give a better ride at Ruapuna if an earthquake hits on a hot lap.

by **1I1** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:37 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Really? If talking early sti I'd take the gt4. A much better car for everything unless you want to carry passengers.

Plus GT4's don't carry anywhere near the stigma of "boyracer" like Subarus/Evos do. Plus seem to be a lot less common.

My vote would be for a ST185RC just for being something different to the norm on the roads.

by **DXROLLA** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:39 pm

1I1 wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:Really? If talking early sti I'd take the gt4. A much better car for everything unless you want to carry passengers.

Plus GT4's don't carry anywhere near the stigma of "boyracer" like Subarus/Evos do. Plus seem to be a lot less common.

My vote would be for a ST185RC just for being something different to the norm on the roads.

Yes i do have a soft spot for the RC, just a matter of finding a nice one, but than id feel bad for modding it :lol:

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