New camber rules for certs

[B1NZ]

I will be talking to LVV today re the tyre strech thing and will also talk about this.

will post back

What is the deal with stretched Tyres? what is the point? Looks stupid IMO

[Bling]

Lets not start that one again. Yes everyone has their own "right" opinion on the matter, move on etc.

[tsoob]

hands up whos car is now illegal

Hands up if you just don't give a shit.

Lol, I can understand it being frustrating, but surely condoning people don't give a shit about their cars being legal or not isn't ideal either. Especially with your businesses field of work.

Having these laws is $&#$% him also tho.

big gay tires on 8" + rims, cant put dope kings springs in lil johnnys ceffy cuz rear will slamber out to much etc etc.


its just the old hot rod boys in the LVV being stuck in the past as per usual

yeah i dont advocate anything dangerous. lets get that clear, however the simple stroke of a pen does affect how we earn, which as i have pointed out is pretty shit.

There was no consultation with this industry directly.

[tsoob]

I will be talking to LVV today re the tyre strech thing and will also talk about this.

will post back

What is the deal with stretched Tyres? what is the point? Looks stupid IMO

I agree, a 205 on a 9" wide is $&#$% dumb. Lil Johnny loves it tho

But there has to be some tolerance, a 205 on an 8 is barely a strech, but its still not allowed by LVV its just law making gone mad

[B1NZ]

I'm confused, did someone delete my post back on page 2? Confused?!?

[RomanV]

One interesting thing, is that with R888s, it's actually the manufacturer's reccomendations to run between 2.5 and 5 degrees negative camber if you can:

Operating Temperature: 160°F to 220°F
Hot Inflation Pressures: 32 to 38 (psi)
Camber: -2.5° to -5.0°
Caster: As much positive as possible

With the new tire stretch rules, they've said must be within XYZ parameters unless the tire manufacturer says it's alright to fit outside of these specifications.

A similar provision here would be nice... Would cut out the flat peaker stancetards from running 195 linglongs on a 9" rim with 10 degrees camber, but would allow camber where it's actually useful instead of aesthetics.

[wde_bdy]

Yeah but R888's aren't a normal road tyre. So if you want to run them they would expect you to be under the Motorsport exemption. You will only find race/semi race tyres with any camber guidance.

Callum

[RomanV]

They are still a road legal tire.

Having a weekend car that does trackdays cant come under the motorsport exemption, (my car falls in this category) yet I'd say there's a HUGE wad of cars that fall in that category which are going to be out of luck with this rule change.

[2jz tt Aristo]

I will be talking to LVV today re the tyre strech thing and will also talk about this.

will post back

What is the deal with stretched Tyres? what is the point? Looks stupid IMO

Its used in drifting so the is minimal tyre wall movment ( helps with stability while the car is sideways)

But with the majority of cars on the road with stretched tyres is so you can have wide wheels and lower the car with minimal rubbing.

Stupidly stretched like this........





Is stupid!!!

[Grrrrrrr!]

But with the majority of cars on the road with stretched tyres is so you can have wide wheels and lower the car with minimal rubbing.

Lol, lets spends lots of $$$ to put on wide wheels... then put the same narrow tyres on...

Isn't the point of wide wheels to fit wide tyres for more grip?

Don't give a shit what they do to their drift cars, so long as they trailer it to the track and back, but it's bad enough having to share the road with some muppet thats overestimated his driving ability, without having to worry about the fact his suspension setup and tyres are impairing his cars handling.

[tsoob]

One interesting thing, is that with R888s, it's actually the manufacturer's reccomendations to run between 2.5 and 5 degrees negative camber if you can:

Operating Temperature: 160°F to 220°F
Hot Inflation Pressures: 32 to 38 (psi)
Camber: -2.5° to -5.0°
Caster: As much positive as possible

With the new tire stretch rules, they've said must be within XYZ parameters unless the tire manufacturer says it's alright to fit outside of these specifications.

A similar provision here would be nice... Would cut out the flat peaker stancetards from running 195 linglongs on a 9" rim with 10 degrees camber, but would allow camber where it's actually useful instead of aesthetics.

This law is still under review, could you pm me where you got this from, i will send it through to them to look at.

Nick

[2jz tt Aristo]

But with the majority of cars on the road with stretched tyres is so you can have wide wheels and lower the car with minimal rubbing.

Isn't the point of wide wheels to fit wide tyres for more grip?

Not necessarily on a street car no.

95% of the cars with wide wheels on the street are for the asthetics of the car not because they want more grip driving down Roscommon rd

[Bling]

Exactly.

Majority of people probably cheap out on tyres too so it doesn't matter what width you run if they are shit tyres.

[2jz tt Aristo]

lol

Yer a guy i know has some triangles or some other cheap tyres on his car and still has 5-6mm of tread after 4 or more years of constant driving!

Anyway, back to the topic, it looks like the chaps at LVV have as much a clue on the laws they set as their colleagues in other govt departments.

[Grrrrrrr!]

95% of the cars with wide wheels on the street are for the asthetics of the car not because they want more grip driving down Roscommon rd

But that would require that wide wheels with narrow tyres didn't look retarded....

[Dell'Orto]

Eye of the beholder, and not really what this thread is about.
Actually thinking about this - surely we have enough members who would be qualified to make a submission on this? Surely if we can get enough support behind it we could get them to amend these changes?

[Grrrrrrr!]

Fair enough.

I agree that 0.5* is SFA, 1 or 1.5* would be reasonable without getting to the point of being stupid/dangerous.

[tsoob]

Eye of the beholder, and not really what this thread is about.
Actually thinking about this - surely we have enough members who would be qualified to make a submission on this? Surely if we can get enough support behind it we could get them to amend these changes?

THIS.

seriously this is going to far.

ill be doing what i can already, would be great to have some help tho.

[holden_fan2005]

The computer dude at lvvta is a family friend so I'll have to hit him up!!

[B1NZ]

I will be talking to LVV today re the tyre strech thing and will also talk about this.

will post back

What is the deal with stretched Tyres? what is the point? Looks stupid IMO

Its used in drifting so the is minimal tyre wall movment ( helps with stability while the car is sideways)

But with the majority of cars on the road with stretched tyres is so you can have wide wheels and lower the car with minimal rubbing.

Stupidly stretched like this........






Is stupid!!!

Aah, thanks for answering that, I honestly had no idea why people stretched tyres, That does make some sense, The picture however doesn't