V8SC News - SBR to become a Merc team in 2013

rolla_fxgt · Post by **rolla_fxgt** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:35 pm

See V8SC have finally gotten their much longed after 4th Manufacturer, with SBR/Erebus becomming a Mercedes outfit from next year.

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/championship/newsarticle/erebus-motorsport-on-the-v8-supercar-grid-in-2013/tabid/70/newsid/12935/default.aspx

Going to run an E class, not the C class as has previously been rumoured.

Funny I was just looking at the E class last night and wondering if that wouldn't be a better bet than a C class. Looks a bit more muscular, and of course has the badge on a pole, being easier to distinguish from the others than perhaps a C class would be.

Would have loved to see a CLS or a S class though. Just to be as different as possible.

matt dunn · Post by **matt dunn** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:03 pm

interestingly they say with a 5 litre v8 but dont mention what brand the engine was. hmmmmm.......

rolla_fxgt · Post by **rolla_fxgt** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:21 pm

matt dunn wrote:interestingly they say with a 5 litre v8 but dont mention what brand the engine was. hmmmmm.......

Yeah I saw that too, but another thing I read said AMG have been building a V8SC spec engine for the last few months ( I imagine sleeving down the 5.5l AMG engine).

But who knows, it'll all be rumours till they turn up on the first test day, or V8SC release the specs.

Mr Ree · Post by **Mr Ree** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:29 pm

The Gis behind the wheel of a Merc?
Nice

MAC_HATER · Post by **MAC_HATER** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:42 pm

He's been getting death threats from yobbo redneck fans apparently - a little bit scary

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:53 pm

"The Mercedes touring cars will be powered by a modified version of the 5.0-litre V8 currently used in the SLS AMG GT3 race cars."

Apparently

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:06 pm

Lloyd wrote:"The Mercedes touring cars will be powered by a modified version of the 5.0-litre V8 currently used in the SLS AMG GT3 race cars."

Apparently

Yeah this has been stated in several releases. Except its the SLS engine sleeved down to 5L

Interestingly Merc oz were against it and have nothing to do with it.
It's all via Erebus and their friendship with AMG. Would appear that after MB oz said "no" Norbert Haug and AMG HQ said "Um actually, yes"

is a good thing. How long before Toyota jump on board. I do hope the NZV8 Camry jump starts the idea

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:25 am

I only hope Toyota jump in if they get in with the right team.If they could some how align themselves with Roland Dane and the Vodafone oufit I'm all for it but if they go with someone like Paul Morris and Supercheap I'd be saying h$LL no don't go I think to maximise the oppourtunityand brand they have to get in with a credible team.

Mr Ree · Post by **Mr Ree** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:38 am

The COTF regs will definitely bring the field closer together, so hopefully the parity will be even better than it is now.

While the top teams will still be the top teams, it certainly gives the others a far greater chance of falling into a win with the new format.

Cant wait for next season to start, with the AMG and Nissan entries, but to have the camry up their too would be something special

Bathurst in a couple of weeks will be the final hurrah for the purists, but Im sure the sport is going to only grow with the new regs

STR · Post by **STR** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:34 pm

I'm a Ford man, but will still support Stone Brothers next year!
Personally I think it's a brilliant move for the series. Bring back the old days!

2jayzgte · Post by **2jayzgte** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:36 pm

I even saw the Kellys had there new Allloy V8 on the bench next to there GM counterpart and apparently there chalk and cheese the Kelly's thought the Nissan unit looked like something out of F-1 and was about 30 odd kg lighter also vs the cast iron good ole boy from the US.

STR · Post by **STR** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:46 pm

The Nissan unit does look pretty nice:
Can't seem to find a pic of the old/ Holden ones

Post by **Mr Revhead** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:01 pm

Will be hard to as the intake set ups are trade secrets

Truenotch · Post by **Truenotch** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:54 pm

2jayzgte wrote:I even saw the Kellys had there new Allloy V8 on the bench next to there GM counterpart and apparently there chalk and cheese the Kelly's thought the Nissan unit looked like something out of F-1 and was about 30 odd kg lighter also vs the cast iron good ole boy from the US.

Yeah, local speedway guys have been de-stroking the VK56 motor and have said that it's like a modern incarnation of a Ford DFV V8.

VR-4Squid · Post by **VR-4Squid** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:01 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
Lloyd wrote:"The Mercedes touring cars will be powered by a modified version of the 5.0-litre V8 currently used in the SLS AMG GT3 race cars."

Apparently

Yeah this has been stated in several releases. Except its the SLS engine sleeved down to 5L

E63 uses the same block/heads as the SLS anyway.

E-class makes much more sense as the C-class is closer to supertourer size.

fangsport · Post by **fangsport** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:55 pm

Truenotch wrote:
2jayzgte wrote:I even saw the Kellys had there new Allloy V8 on the bench next to there GM counterpart and apparently there chalk and cheese the Kelly's thought the Nissan unit looked like something out of F-1 and was about 30 odd kg lighter also vs the cast iron good ole boy from the US.

Yeah, local speedway guys have been de-stroking the VK56 motor and have said that it's like a modern incarnation of a Ford DFV V8.

you sure it's the VK56 ?? plenty of stockcar guys have downsized the VH?44, but taking over 1.6l off the VK56 motor would take some doing, 200cc per pot !!

matt dunn · Post by **matt dunn** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:00 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:Will be hard to as the intake set ups are trade secrets

Had a look at some of the latest ones from PMM a few years back when we worked with them,

they were a work of art, and pretty high tech.

definatly a lot more sophisticated than the old spec V8SC ITB's we fitted to dads focus.

Lloyd · Post by **Lloyd** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:06 pm

For people who like to look at engines, scroll down

http://www.wrenchgene.com/1/archives/12-2011/1.html

Truenotch · Post by **Truenotch** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:27 pm

fangsport wrote:
Truenotch wrote:
2jayzgte wrote:I even saw the Kellys had there new Allloy V8 on the bench next to there GM counterpart and apparently there chalk and cheese the Kelly's thought the Nissan unit looked like something out of F-1 and was about 30 odd kg lighter also vs the cast iron good ole boy from the US.

Yeah, local speedway guys have been de-stroking the VK56 motor and have said that it's like a modern incarnation of a Ford DFV V8.

you sure it's the VK56 ?? plenty of stockcar guys have downsized the VH?44, but taking over 1.6l off the VK56 motor would take some doing, 200cc per pot !!

Yip, I'm sure. Brian Hartley is the one building them and they'll keep making power over 9000rpm. AFAIK they've had custom cranks made to de-stroke them. Not sure if they've done sleeves or not, but he's said that the heads are a work of art.

fangsport · Post by **fangsport** » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:58 pm

Truenotch wrote:
Yip, I'm sure. Brian Hartley is the one building them and they'll keep making power over 9000rpm. AFAIK they've had custom cranks made to de-stroke them. Not sure if they've done sleeves or not, but he's said that the heads are a work of art.

no bloorry wonder the top superstock engines are spendy if they are now using the VK motor, as the VH45 was dear enough to drop down under 4l.